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To Think Remainers Are Starting To Get Really Angry About Brexit?

577 replies

KennDodd · 12/03/2019 19:02

I can feel the mood among Remainers, both IRL and online changing.

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LaurieMarlow · 14/03/2019 16:11

I don’t expect those who’ve never lived in NI can fully understand what a small miracle the GFA was for the region. How hard won it was, how significantly it changed people’s lives, how instrumental it is to peace.

But I would expect them to listen to the voices of NI people when they tell them all this.

It is heartbreaking to see how readily the British would tear it all up because - actually I’m still not entirely sure why - because they don’t want Johnny Foreigner telling them what to do or something. And they can’t be bothered coming up with a proper exit plan.

It is genuinely people’s livelihoods and lives you would be fucking with. It’s a pretty unforgivable thing to do frankly.

OutInTheCountry · 14/03/2019 16:13

I started off angry, I'm still angry.

2isur2isubicurtis4me · 14/03/2019 16:31

Absolutely I was mad after the vote and have had a low irritation level since but this past two weeks have sent my levels so high. Even my husband who from the start was 50/50 but voted remain in the end and has always maintained it will be okay came home last night with a leaflet for the people vote March on the 23rd. Stating if they can't even sort this shit show out how are we supposed to trust them when they get fucking sovereignty!

Tiscold · 14/03/2019 16:44

Please can we just revoke? Pretty please?

rainingonmyfireworks · 14/03/2019 17:08

the french have always been whinging and striking over something, it's a national occupation of theirs, i wouldn't put credence on any off it. they were doing this long before brexit was ever thought of.

Songsofexperience · 14/03/2019 17:16

the french have always been whinging and striking over something, it's a national occupation of theirs

Charming.
I'll never understand the bile that so easily comes up whenever France is mentioned. The French don't have any particular strong feelings for or against the English.

rainingonmyfireworks · 14/03/2019 17:40

songs watch the news /media and all too often they are striking about something then these were the recent jeune gillet protests, it's always been the same. BUT i do respect them for the fact they make their voices heard and try to do something to change things unlike the u.k where we moan about stuff and don't try hard enough to change things we could do worse than take a leaf out of their book.

rainingonmyfireworks · 14/03/2019 17:41

*there were

safariboot · 14/03/2019 17:42

I passed anger ages ago. I've been at depression for the past several months.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 14/03/2019 17:43

A lot of vitriol, racism and crowing from leavers

But never any actual facts about how the benefit of leaving. Strange that. One can almost conclude that it is because there aren't any.

rainingonmyfireworks · 14/03/2019 17:50

why would leavers need to crow about anything ? Confused it's not a game and a prize has been won, remainers would probably do the same if we were staying but what is that actually achieving ?
i take the attitude we only have one life so i'm not wasting it getting upset and angry until i see the outcome, but even then me raging about it won't change anything.

colouringinpro · 14/03/2019 17:54

F**king Furious.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 14/03/2019 17:59

WA3 or no deal.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 14/03/2019 18:00

Oops wrong thread.

yolofish · 14/03/2019 18:08

was it Forrest Gump's mum who said 'stoopid is as stoopid does'?

sums up my opinion of leavers anyway. I was dumbfounded to discover that we were no longer staying in. Then I was angry. I'm still pretty angry, but also absolutely horrified at the clusterfuckageddon (great word, nicked from someone else) that we still appear to be in.

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/03/2019 18:22

Following the above post ive now got to check back and see what continuity has been saying

Livingtothefull · 14/03/2019 19:32

I am angry at just about every level right now - here are just a few of them:

Angry because I can't be proud of my country right now because the governing class is ensuring we are an embarrassment in front of the whole world;

Angry because the same governing class have visited this upon us. They had one overriding responsibility to uphold the security and tranquillity, and safeguard the future of the country and its people, and they have comprehensively FAILED at this;

Angry because the divisions between people are up there for all of us to see and that same governing class created many of those divisions in the first place (eg austerity);

Angry because a lot of them will be enriching themselves out of this. A few of them should imo be facing treason charges - but of course that won't happen;

Angry because it is the younger generation's future being screwed up the most, and they didn't get a say in it. (I was scared for my disabled DS's future before all this, I am verging on terrified now);

Angry because Leavers can't give us a single benefit of Brexit although they have had 3 years to do so. That's because there aren't any. You call this 'taking back control'?

And angry because many of those self same Leavers make it clear that they don't give a shit about the consequences others are being faced with by Brexit. The blithe indifference evident from some of them to the risks for Northern Ireland - that the GFA (you know, that other international agreement we signed up to) can be discarded as an inconvenience and any serious and potentially deadly outcomes to that - given the recent history - is just unforgivable.

ContinuityError · 14/03/2019 19:45

rufus what did I miss? Confused

Colourpencils · 14/03/2019 23:16

Why can't the border be in the sea? I'm arguing with a friend, i need an answer to this quickly mnettrs!

Frequency · 14/03/2019 23:22

How would you stop and search trucks in the sea? The vast majority of produce shipped to the UK from the EU is taken by road. In theory, we could change this and demand all our deliveries be made by sea but in practise most companies would just stop delivering to us if we did that.

Plus we don't have the infrastructure (enough boats etc) in place to have the boarder in the sea and it would take time and money we don't have to get that in place.

Colourpencils · 14/03/2019 23:37

Thank you! DUP won't allow it I guess either? I need to switch off my head and go to sleep but I want to be able to understand everything esp about the backstop etc . Is anyone else's head about to implode?

Colourpencils · 14/03/2019 23:38

Or borders at the sea ports? Would reduce frictionless trade I assume?

doIreallyneedto · 15/03/2019 08:54

@Frequency - How would you stop and search trucks in the sea?

The border in the Irish Sea doesn't mean there will be border checks in/on the actual sea. It's a slightly euphemistic way of saying that there will be a border between NI and Britain and that the only border between Ireland and the UK will be between Ireland and Britain.

It was probably worded in that way to try and make it less unpalatable to the DUP but that shower just say NO to everything anyway.

bellinisurge · 15/03/2019 09:04

This disingenuous "in the sea?" nonsense shows up people's lack of thinking. Could be on the vessel in some technological way. Could be at British ports when the vessel arrives.
The interesting thing is I heard some DUP MP twat say they weren't wholly against the idea yesterday. Contrary to what they have said before. And yes they are twats and don't get my respect if anyone cares.