To Think Remainers Are Starting To Get Really Angry About Brexit?

[KennDodd]

I can feel the mood among Remainers, both IRL and online changing.

As a proud leave voter who is probably super proud to be British you should probably learn how to use English correctly but hey ho.

@Weetabix, I haven't lied. I have given you a concrete example of something which is directly related to Brexit, is causing me a great deal of stress and has cost me money I can ill afford to lose.

You are being a goady fucker and reminding me of why I loathe smug leave voters who refuse to acknowledge that their vote has caused harm to millions of other people.

So the Unions which called the work to rule say it’s Brexit related, the French press are reporting it as Brexit related, even the Torygraph is reporting it as Brexit related ... but it can’t be because nothing detrimental can ever be attributed to Brexit. Apparently.

Well that report says that they are demanding more pay (brexit????), are working to rule by carrying out required safety checks (so have they not been doing that before now???) and that they are proving to the French government that they are not prepared (so surely down to the French government for not planning properly????)

Who said I’m a leave voter? I’m just finding it hilarious that a smug remainer has had it finally bite them on the arse. All this I’m superior and more intelligent crap and dum dum dum... still buggered your own travel plans by picking the most unreliable mode of transport. Go you smarty pants

,I haven't lied
Yeah you did. You said eurostar isn't running yet it is.

And I'm being goady? Yet you think it is fine to say As a proud leave voter who is probably super proud to be British you should probably learn how to use English correctly but hey ho.

And you don't think that is goady? Maybe check your own behaviour before pointing the finger.

Nothing has bitten me on the arse except Brexit. Only a leave voter would pile in to this discussion to point and laugh at someone's Brexit-related misfortune.

@Weetabix it is irrelevant that some trains are running when the one I am booked on it not and there are no spaces on any of the ones that are.

I think we're done here. Thank you for demonstrating perfectly how leave voters do not care how many people are negatively affected by your vote. (On the contrary, you seem to find it entertaining.)

I can only hope that you find yourself suffering unintended consequences of Brexit shortly. Please do complain on here so I can come and laugh at your misfortune too and say you deserve it (which you do).

Eurostar passengers from Paris to London are facing cancellations and delays of up to two hours due to a strike by French customs workers over what they warn is a lack of preparedness for Brexit

Over the past few days, customs officers have taken to making over-zealous identity and safety checks, slowing passengers flows to a trickle through terminals at Eurostar, Eurotunnel and the ports in Calais and airports.

Or maybe you don’t want to believe the Telegraph now?

Awe how thoughtful of you. I will laugh at anyone who’s smug and then falls I don’t care. It’s my sense of humour.

Frankly anyone who thought the euro was running fine in the last month relying on it for an important time limited meeting was being stupid to of not made other plans.

That’s your fault not anybody else’s. You should of had a back up plan and not left travelling to mere hours before knowing the disruption that can suddenly happen with the bloody thing. Sure when it’s working well it’s fabulous but it fails to work well more often than not.

Over the past few days, customs officers have taken to making over-zealous identity and safety checks, slowing passengers flows to a trickle through terminals at Eurostar, Eurotunnel and the ports in Calais and airports.

Yes, over-zealous identity and safety checks, sounds like they are going out of their way to disrupt people unnecessarily doesn't it?

@ContinuityError

I don't disbelieve the Telegraph at all.

due to a strike by French customs workers over what they warn is a lack of preparedness for Brexit

Over the past few days, customs officers have taken to making over-zealous identity and safety checks, slowing passengers flows to a trickle through terminals at Eurostar, Eurotunnel and the ports in Calais and airports.

So, it's a strike or a deliberate effort by customs officers to slow passenger flows, neither of these HAD to happen. It's perfectly feasible that, after Brexit, security checks/procedures may have to be modified. However, these delays are entirely down to the action of the customs officers.

It may be that security checks WILL take longer post-Brexit and this is something that Eurostar should be (and probably are) reviewing. The problems they are experiencing now though are unnecessary.

I don't think @Weetabixandshreddies understands work to rule as a weapon in industrial disputes. When we go back to the 70s after Brexit we can bring it back in like they did at British Leyland. That fabulous and well managed UK company that failed only because those wicked people in Brussels caused it to fail.

It’s a forum not an English exam. Suck it up buttercup.

PBo83

They’re making the point that insufficient resources have been put in place to deal with Brexit. Yes they’re being bloody minded, but it’s demonstrating their case.

Anyway, I thought Brexiteers were all for taking back control of borders?

@ContinuityError

They’re making the point that insufficient resources have been put in place to deal with Brexit. Yes they’re being bloody minded, but it’s demonstrating their case.

I totally agree. The problems seems to be (and correct me if I'm wrong, I've only read a couple of articles) that they are campaigning for both increases staffing AND increased pay which Eurostar have said isn't possible. I understand that there may need to be increased provision for security checks but it seems like the customs officers are over-using the 'Brexit stick' for, potentially, their own advantage.

Anyway, I thought Brexiteers were all for taking back control of borders?

I can't speak for everyone that voted to leave (I don't like 'Brexiteer' or 'Remainer' as I said before, I don't think someone should define themselves/be defined by the way they voted in a referendum).
However, as much as it's a popular soundbite used to perpetuate the 'racist stereotype' of leave voters, I DO believe that uncontrolled EU immigration has potential issues.

I'm not anti-immigration but do believe that a country should have control of who is allowed to enter/reside. However, it's far to complex an issue to summarise in a short paragraph.

Wow, that was terribly written, I hope you understand what I'm saying though.

The only solution to the Brexit conundrum is partition - maybe a line from The Wash to the Severn Estuary.

Fuck that @AirBiscuit , even as a joke. The people of Liverpool and Manchester might have something to say about it.

I tend to use “Brexiteer” for those that have very much defined themselves through the EU Referendum (and there plenty that have).

One of the French customs union statements claims that the service has been cut back massively and they’ve had less resources and had longer hours - and “Brexit is the straw that breaks the camel’s back”.

I'm not anti-immigration but do believe that a country should have control of who is allowed to enter/reside

FoM is for workers, and measures could have been put in place to tighten things up. But, it would have been costly and time consuming, and would have meant the UK government admitting that it really has no idea who is in the country.

I don't think @Weetabixandshreddies understands work to rule as a weapon in industrial disputes.

Thanks @bellinisurge. I understand very well. I also understand the propensity of some French workers to strike at the drop of the hat - fishermen, farmers, custom officials - and not care 2 shits about the disruption caused. We got stranded in France 30 odd years ago when the French fisherman blockaded the ports and refused to let ferries in. Was that due to Brexit too?

The customs officials have seen an excuse that they can use and are causing disruption to their own end. If it were a one off then I would be more inclined to believe it. But no, this is just them doing what they do, as the French air traffic controllers tend to do over busy periods just to cause maximum disruption.

One of the French customs union statements claims that the service has been cut back massively and they’ve had less resources and had longer hours - and “Brexit is the straw that breaks the camel’s back”.

Exactly. Very little to do with Brexit. Mostly due to a dispute with their employers.

I don't think Weetabix understands what the word "unprecedented" means.

And I don't think that @TonightJosephine understands what contingency plans means.

@ContinuityError

I guess there will always be conflict between the official union's stance and that of the business (the truth, which we may never know for sure, is likely to be somewhere in between).

I am inclined to agree about FoM too, had the government acted correctly then immigration would probably not have been seen as such a 'core selling point' of Brexit.

My honest belief in all of this is the following:

Most people who voted in the referendum understood that there would be benefits and negative connotations or either result. Different people put different weighting on different political matters which ultimately made their decision.

The press would have us believe that there are only two camps: Racist, far-right 'Brexiteers' who hate foreigners and want Britain to 'rule the waves again' Vs Liberal lefty softy 'remoaners' who are unpatriotic. The fact of the matter is that most people who voted are much closer to each other (in terms of views) than to either of these stereotypes but this doesn't stop the perpetuation of division.

@bellinisurge

Fuck that AirBiscuit , even as a joke. The people of Liverpool and Manchester might have something to say about it.

There can be remainer enclaves in leaver land. And London could organise regular airdrops of essentials, such as avocados and quinoa

S1naidSucks Tue 12-Mar-19 20:22:56
I'm Irish, living in Ireland and I'm v angry that Great Britain is about to sink and drag Ireland down with it

You want to be living on the North side of the British border in Ireland (it’s not a fucking Irish border). They’ve not just voted the uk and NI out, but condemned us to a potential return to the troubles. When the first person is murdered because they fuck with the border, will the remainers admit that they either voted in ignorance or don’t give a shit that some of us might die, for their stupid fucking unicorn!

That will be nobody's fault but the terrorists that carry out those actions.