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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 16:03

Again, massive projection going on here from other posters.

FrancisCrawford · 07/03/2019 16:04

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HeyCarrieAnneWhatsYourGame · 07/03/2019 16:04

This would never happen where I live. Are you a character in The Archer’s? Be thankful no one got slapped, say sorry and don’t gossip in future (or if you do, don’t do it in public).

SilverySurfer · 07/03/2019 16:04

Ah the OP Defenders Club has joined the thread. They will defend the OP, no matter the circumstances.

MadameDD · 07/03/2019 16:05

FriarTuck agree with you - pretending it was 'curiosity' and 'fuelled by wine' - as if wine fuelled gossip is ever an excuse for gossiping though of course things do get out of hand with wine Wine.

CardiganB · 07/03/2019 16:05

3...2...1 before the OP has this taken down for 'privacy reasons'.

CiarCel · 07/03/2019 16:06

I had a close group of friends from uni who behaved like this. We are still friends but I have made my distance because these sorts of "gossipy discussions" (i.e. nastiness and I won't say "bitchy because they are MIXED sex group and in fact two of the men are the worst) were the norm and I felt I either had to sit there and let it slide or be the "killjoy" pulling people up on it. I'm glad you have apologised it is nastiness pure and simple and the husband who would not invite an older man because it was "weird" is despicable.

ChicCroissant · 07/03/2019 16:07

This all seems barely credible, tbh. But being generous, the OP is probably most bothered about the fact that her own child knows that she is a cruel gossip.

MargoLovebutter · 07/03/2019 16:07

floribunda18 please tell me what good ever came of gossip or bitching? Why would anyone say it's fine. Yes, people do it but that doesn't make it right.

The OP says herself she feels guilty and to blame and unsurprisingly, given the information that's been given most posters are agreeing with her!

CiarCel · 07/03/2019 16:07

Also, if they discuss others like this, you know they do the same to you behind your back.

icannotremember · 07/03/2019 16:10

CardiganB Grin Grin Grin

GrubbyHipsterBeard · 07/03/2019 16:11

franciscrawford it may well be a valid question but unless I’ve misunderstood, the teenager had done nothing wrong and didn’t deserve to be caught in the middle. I would have found that very upsetting as a teenager. Leave the children out of it.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 16:12

I've certainly been party to a group of people I know through an organisation - work, school, a club my DDs are involved in - gossiping about someone else and have not joined in myself but neither have I called them out on it. Unless it was a good friend they were talking about I stay well out of it and try to change the subject or talk to someone else. And I know in the past I have absolutely gossiped with colleagues about other colleagues we find a pain in the backside to work with.

It seems like the only difference between me and the OP is that no-one overheard and so I didn't get "told off" and get handed a character assassination for being present while other people were talking.

Tink2007 · 07/03/2019 16:12

Well I for one absolutely love A and hope she ignores all of your apologies and makes better friends.

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2019 16:13

Hooray for A she called out the bitches and put them in their place, sorry no sympathy as you got what you deserve and as for vomiting, tough shit do you think A was whooping with delight when she found out she was a target for your coven. You should be ashamed so just lie low now and don't flap your mouths about anyone else

m0therofdragons · 07/03/2019 16:13

Good for her. Stop with all the "but I didn't start it" and "it wasn't said in a mean way" bollocks. You sure as hell weren't being kind.

I would be apologising for my involvement in it and saying how much I value her friendship but appreciate she is unlikely to reciprocate right now. If she ever wanted to go for coffee you would love that but you'll leave it to her to decide if she can ever accept your apology and enable you to rebuild the trust that's been broken.

Megs4x3 · 07/03/2019 16:14

Oh, and I just reread your post OP. You all gossiped about this women and SHE is in the wrong, unforgivably so, for asking a teenager if she was brought up to behave so badly??!! Good heaven's, it's a perfectly reasonable question under the circumstances, and she is to be applauded for addressing it all face to face. She started a perfectly appropriate 'way forward' and it's now up to you to take up her mantle and follow suit. She dealt with it all as a grown up should.

Janus · 07/03/2019 16:14

As said, I’d apologise profusely and try and say it was an observation.
I find I imagine the person I am talking about is with me so I only say something I’d say in front of them. You have to see that if she hears that a group of women talked about her husband as you did she’d be upset. I’m not sure you can actually fix this tbh.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 07/03/2019 16:15

It seems like the only difference between me and the OP is that no-one overheard and so I didn't get "told off" and get handed a character assassination for being present while other people were talking

Yeah, that’s the critical difference though. Getting rumbled exposes stupidity and bad behaviour for just that. If the OP was not rumbled A would potentially still be living in ignorant bliss... what’s is better?

[existential chin stroke]

Theunreasonableone · 07/03/2019 16:16

One being sick. One in bed with a migraine. a, presumably, grown man unable to speak to an older man.
Seriously? What the fuck is wrong with you all?

This woman is better off without all of you to be honest. The fact that she could destroy you all so easily with a few words shows that she is superior to you in every way.

howwillwedeal · 07/03/2019 16:18

Well done that woman! Taking on a coven of witches like you lot! Now some are being sick and having migraines,how do you think the gossiped about party is feeling, based on the drama of the ones being held accountable for their bitching she should be in bed for a month.

Awkward speaking to a man old enough to be his father, my heart fucking bleeds for him.... not!

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/03/2019 16:18

This I can honestly say I don't gossip and feel very uncomfortable if I feel a conversation I'm in is heading this way. I try and avoid being around people who do.

I do however drink shit loads Grin. And reckon A would be ace to go drinking with.

Calm down Flori no ones suggesting the death penalty. And a discussion at work about how a colleagues behaviour impacts on others isn't really the same as gossip.

Champagne sounds like you're better off without them Thanks

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 16:18

This woman is better off without all of you to be honest. The fact that she could destroy you all so easily with a few words shows that she is superior to you in every way

Yes, because that makes her such a lovely person obviously. She could be a total narcissist for all we know.

vampirethriller · 07/03/2019 16:20

Your lot sound ridiculous. He didn't want to talk to a man old enough to be his father? Does he not talk to his actual father either then?!
Grow up and apologise.

Biancadelrioisback · 07/03/2019 16:24

OP please invite A to MN. I really want her to read me now