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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

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Onceuponacheesecake · 07/03/2019 15:52

She's probably used to being judged by her age gap by strangers that the thought of people she considers friends gossiping behind her back has tipped her over the edge. You need to apologise personally. Forget about the rest of the group

JC4PMPLZ · 07/03/2019 15:52

wow - absolutely horrible. So happy I and my older DP go to schools in bohemian London where many parents are at least closer to us in age - though I have never encountered this from younger parents, even if I am closer in age to their parents (maybe behind my back???). What discrimination. You should apologise, but I know i would never forgive you for that ignorant gossip and prejudice. Bet you'd invite him along if he was Mick Jagger or someone wealthy.....

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:53

Probably less bad than A feels since they were supposed to be her friends and we're strangers who she's chosen to tell!

An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

BearSoFair · 07/03/2019 15:54

I just think bloody good for her for calling you all out! Hopefully she'll move on from the rest of you and find herself a group of nicer friends, not a group who bitch like schoolchildren and throw up/take to their beds when confronted Hmm Pathetic attention seeking.

VeraWangTwang · 07/03/2019 15:54

You have apologised, now leave the poor woman alone

PotatoesDieInHotCars · 07/03/2019 15:54

One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.

What was everyone's reaction to that? Poor woman. That kind of attitude you might expect from ignorant outsiders. But to hear your friends have been making comments about your DH will hurt.

ahtellthee · 07/03/2019 15:54

For the love of A.

You lot sound exactly why I don't do 'cliques'. My good friends are such a random and eclectic group aged from mid twenties to early 70's, all differing nationalities and religions.

We have a right laugh and no one tolerates being mean. Any talking is down out of concern or with joy/love.

I would give you Pearl clutching drama queens such a wide berth.

SilverySurfer · 07/03/2019 15:55

I deeply regret what has happened and the result is a damaged atmosphere for our girls.

Don't forget the main result which is that you have hurt someone to whom you were supposed to be a friend. I'm sure 'our girls' will survive and hopefully they have learned something.

10IAR · 07/03/2019 15:55

Also, OP, you might want to take this down in case she's a MNetter. Just a thought.

Tucobenedicto · 07/03/2019 15:56

People in glass houses shouldnt through stones...I would guess most people on this thread have gossiped about someone in their lifetime...myself included...a lesson for everyone I think.

ZoeWashburne · 07/03/2019 15:56

This just reminds me of a great phrase an American friend told me: “Don’t let your mouth write a cheque that your arse can’t cash”.

You ran your mouth, and are shocked that someone called you on it. If you are all so conflict avoidant that you’ve taken to being ill and migraines at being called out, then maybe you should learn to not do it again.

As for the group, I agree, you’ve ruined it. You should apologise to your daughters, and be honest as to why it has stopped. Say that you did something mean and foolish and you deeply regret it, and because of that the group has stopped. Then you deal with the consequences. Be honest with your daughter. Because she will find out at school that mummy was a bully.

Megs4x3 · 07/03/2019 15:58

This isn't gossip gone horribly wrong. This is gossip. It's what gossip does - it ruins friendships and causes great distress. The best thing you can do OP is apologise, fully and unreservedly to 'A', on your own, and take full responsibility for your actions. Take her some flowers or something. You all behaved like bitchy schoolgirls, and then decide who you REALLY want to be friends with. If you stick up for 'A' you may lose the friendship of some of the others, but frankly, you should have been calling them out on their behaviour at the get-go. Perhaps 'A' will be generous enough to accept your apology, perhaps not, but I know who I'd prefer to be friends with. The migraines and vomiting are just displacement dramatics, because those women don't want to be held responsible for their horrible behaviour. Don't be like them. Face up to the part you played, say sorry and mean it. THAT's the best way forward.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 07/03/2019 15:58

I completely get what @floribunda18 is saying - basically “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” etc etc.

But there’s something really “Mean Girls” and bitchy about a group of school mums sitting round hatcheting another’s husband for what?

It sounds really stinky because it is that - stinky. Poor woman must feel like she’s back in the playground.

We all make mistakes OP. And I do sympathise. But it was shitty.

PrismGuile · 07/03/2019 15:58

Tbh, you were bitching... doesn't matter how bad it was. Say sorry and that you take responsibility for enabling and not ending the conversation.

DoneLikeAKipper · 07/03/2019 15:59

Also, OP, you might want to take this down in case she's a MNetter. Just a thought.

Could you imagine the update if A was reading this and gave them all the Flamethrower Treatment x2? I would love to see that updated:

‘So A found out about this thread and things have just escalated. One friend is still out cold from her fainting episode, and another is on her third medicinal sherry in an hour....’

carrotflinger · 07/03/2019 15:59

@CardiganB
Please God don't let anyone organise a church trip for you lot to the Sistene Chapel...

Thank you - I've just about wet myself laughing.

MamaLovesMango · 07/03/2019 16:00

I can't imagine any one of you would have called out the person talking about someone else, especially after a couple of glasses of wine.

I have done actually, more than once and I’m yet to go to a dinner/drinks with my friends where we’ve all sat and had a good gossip. We’ve got far much more interesting stuff going on in our own lives to chat about and well...we’re just not cunts.

I know exactly the type of people you and your ‘friends’ are OP. They’ll be playing the victim something rotten. That’s what all the drama llamaring about the place is. If you want to be a better person than that, better than them, you know what to do.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/03/2019 16:00

This is why I don't - and won't - ever have groups of friends. Who'd want to put up with that shit?

Not everybody lives the same way or behaves like this, floribunda. You can make excuses for the OP if you want to.

I've been the subject of bitching and gossip when I was in college at 17. Two of the most miserable years of my life with so-called friends. Never again.

SilverySurfer · 07/03/2019 16:00

PS - Can you ask A to post on here, she sounds awesome if she can induce vomiting and a migraine just with the power of speech - we all want to be her friend Grin

10IAR · 07/03/2019 16:01

‘So A found out about this thread and things have just escalated. One friend is still out cold from her fainting episode, and another is on her third medicinal sherry in an hour....’*

Grin I can picture it now!

I've been the subject of petty gossip, more than once (small town ugh) and it feels shite.

IvanaPee · 07/03/2019 16:01

Listen, the gossip isn’t even the worst part. The completely ludicrous, OTT reactions and weeping and gnashing of teeth; the desperate attempts to paint A as somehow in the wrong is annoying as fuck.

WorraLiberty · 07/03/2019 16:02

Well I'd start by giving the woman a medal Star

There was no 'text', no 'popping a note through anyone's door', no passive aggressive Facebook post, no 'I hate conflict'.

She front you all up and good on her for doing so. Perhaps it'll make you all think next time?

As for one of your friends being sick and the other having a migraine, due to being called out on their behaviour. I suggest you take tiny little violin lessons.

WorraLiberty · 07/03/2019 16:03

*Fronted

MadameDD · 07/03/2019 16:03

Tucobenedicto - there is a difference between gossiping about someone e.g. school playground pickup etc like Sara isn't speaking to Mia (mums, DC etc) because of X stupid situation difference between gossiping about someone nastily due to an age gap (insinuating they're a grandfather, dirty old man etc) and then freezing them out of an invitation to an event because of this age gap.

Most women and indeed men don't bother calling out gossips on their behaviour and let them get away with murder, this woman was brave enough to do so as what had been said about her was unkind.

I was gossiped about when at a convent because I'd misbehaved (stupid school girl stuff) - the parents and nuns were the worst gossips and wanted me expelled - fee paying school. The priest there was horrified at their gossip and the way it spread so quickly and expressed this to my mother and I, I luckily got away with suspension but the nuns and parents had blown a school girl misdemeanour with 2 other girls out of all proportion - didn't help that 2 us weren't Catholic and the other girl was. So that's how harmful harmless gossip can be.

GrubbyHipsterBeard · 07/03/2019 16:03

You were in the wrong, I agree with the posters on this thread about that. I think most of us have said something about someone else behind their back which would cause problems if repeated to their face, but that will be no consolation to her. Apologise but accept that the friendship is probably over.

And yes she was totally wrong for involving a teenager in the conflict.

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