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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 07/03/2019 15:43

Aww the poor woman with the migrane and how awful for the lady who was sick. Hmm

They'll never be able to bitch in public again.

Notthatsimple · 07/03/2019 15:44

Someone delivered such an immense verbal smackdown that someone was sick!?

Kudos.

thecutecouple · 07/03/2019 15:44

You come across as envious about the woman. You deserved a good tongue lashing. With friends like you, who needs enemies. Just grow up, own your faults and apologise.

cjt110 · 07/03/2019 15:44

It felt wrong at the time. But you still went along with it? Didn't have the balls to correct your "friends" and tell them it's none of their business.

To be frank, if you all bitch behind A's back like this, she's better off without you all.

And it won't be long before you're the subject of idle gossip either... but then what goes around comes around.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:44

I maintain that the conversation we had fuelled by wine was not essentially nasty but an expression of curiosity

Exactly. I can't believe no-one here hasn't talked about someone in a similar way, either on here or IRL. A storm in a teacup.

HollowTalk · 07/03/2019 15:44

@Grace212

I have friends of different ages, too, but it's naive to think that it is always easy for eg 60 year olds to socialise with 30 year olds. If his grandchildren are older than their children then they are both at completely different stages in their lives. I know when my children were little I tended to be friends most of all with people who were going through that themselves, rather than someone my mum's age.

Obviously anyone can choose a partner of whatever age but it's daft to think there might not be difficulties.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 07/03/2019 15:44

I'm really quite surprised that you'd post, OP. I imagine you're feeling upset that you've - along with your cohort of spiteful friends - been found out.

Your calling of her behaviour as 'inexcusable' in asking the teenager if that's how they'd been brought up shows what character you actually have yourself. It's not very much of a character, is it?

Do not contact this woman again, no cards, no flowers. I doubt you could give an abject apology so just don't bother. Your headachey/vomiting friends are risible just as pathetic.

You made your bed. Leave this woman alone, she's better off without fiends like you. I expect she knows this too.

cjt110 · 07/03/2019 15:45

And FWIW, my husband and I have a 14 year age gap. We are one of the strongest couples around I know because we've had to come up against arseholes like you for the past 15 years we have been a couple.

No wonder she tore you all a new one.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:46

OP I've been the subject of "chat" like this

You are massively projecting.

Quite interesting to see the groupthink in operation on this thread, I can't imagine any one of you would have called out the person talking about someone else, especially after a couple of glasses of wine.

Grace212 · 07/03/2019 15:47

@HollowTalk

happily I live in a world where it's okay. Interesting that you say that about when your DC were little, thank goodness my friends weren't feeling that way as I don't have DC!

10IAR · 07/03/2019 15:47

Exactly. I can't believe no-one here hasn't talked about someone in a similar way, either on here or IRL. A storm in a teacup

Not all of us would react the way OP and her nasty friends did. If I was pulled up for something I'd admit it, and if I was sorry or in the wrong I'd apologise.

Therein lies the difference!

LagunaBubbles · 07/03/2019 15:47

Simply youve been caught out gossiping about a friend and should be feeling ashamed.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 07/03/2019 15:48

You all sound very high strung. Including A.

All she needs to say was "Janine heard you being arseholes about me and Alan. Do you have an apology for us?", and everyone could apologise and remain friends. No need for anyone to be puking with the enormous stress of the situation.

People will talk about a situation like that, obviously.

Grace212 · 07/03/2019 15:48

@floribunda18 "I can't imagine any one of you would have called out the person talking about someone else, especially after a couple of glasses of wine."

I would. I really want to meet A, she sounds grand!

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 07/03/2019 15:49

It is highly unusual in this group to have this much of an age gap and I maintain that the conversation we had fuelled by wine was not essentially nasty but an expression of curiosity. I deeply regret what has happened and the result is a damaged atmosphere for our girls

There ya go. The consequences of gossip can take out unexpected bystanders too.

I’m slightly sympathetic to your position because I know how you could be complicit even if you’d said Sweet FA; being there can be enough.

But the thing is you did take part and the best you can hope for is that your apology is accepted and that the storm blows over.

She will never trust you lot again though.

CardiganB · 07/03/2019 15:49

Please God don't let anyone organise a church trip for you lot to the Sistene Chapel...

HarrysOwl · 07/03/2019 15:49

Before we all throw stones from our glass houses, OP you obviously didn't mean any intentional nastiness, but the fact is you've joined in gossiping about an absent friend.

She'll be feeling betrayed and I admire the fact you've been confronted about it - it gets it all in the open at least.

I think you can save this by telling her, as you have done, how genuinely sorry you are. Don't make excuses - own the responsibility.

And learn from it. I don't think you'll do it again - and that's learning throughout life! Hopefully your friend will forgive you and in time this will be in the past. Good luck.

FriarTuck · 07/03/2019 15:49

You all will no doubt disagree with me and such violent reactions I think are because we are unused to conflict.
Yes to disagreeing and Hmm to vomiting due to being unused to conflict. In fact if Mumsnet had a smiley to demonstrate 'bollocks' I'd have used that instead. People that bitch don't vomit when they're caught (unless they're teenagers and attention-seeking). You were all wrong and I doubt that any apologies are really going to be meant. In fact you'll probably sit and snigger about them at your next meet-up.

10IAR · 07/03/2019 15:49

I would. I really want to meet A, she sounds grand!

Me too!

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:50

Read back what you have written on here and think about how it must be making the OP feel.

I can't believe all these posters who claim to be so noble, never discussing other people when out to dinner and yet take the first opportunity to give the OP a good shoeing for something pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. Incredibly bitchy and cowardly in itself.

FriarTuck · 07/03/2019 15:50

I maintain that the conversation we had fuelled by wine was not essentially nasty but an expression of curiosity
So you're 'maintaining', blaming the wine and pretending it was 'curiousity' - seriously? You don't get it and your apology text was a lie to get you off the hook.

Oblomov19 · 07/03/2019 15:51

Migraines and vomiting? After being catch bitching about someone? Seems OTT. Hmm

cjt110 · 07/03/2019 15:51

Please God don't let anyone organise a church trip for you lot to the Sistene Chapel... I thought exactly the same just then... lol

FriarTuck · 07/03/2019 15:51

Read back what you have written on here and think about how it must be making the OP feel.
Probably less bad than A feels since they were supposed to be her friends and we're strangers who she's chosen to tell!

MargoLovebutter · 07/03/2019 15:51

Where are all these people who find it difficult to converse with other human beings, in their own language, who are in a different age bracket?!!!!!

The mind boggles. Are we supposed to seriously imagine that people the generation or even more above us can literally only talk about Werthers Originals or the fucking war? What bullshit crap is this?!!!!!! Ageism at its worst.

There's a 51 year age gap between the youngest and oldest employee in our office but somehow they manage to get along fine, even at social events (shock horror) without a translator or embarrassment that they are different ages.

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