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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
LaMarschallin · 07/03/2019 19:36

Haven't RmostofTFT but was mildly surprised to learn that people are actually sick after something like this.
Obviously a stomach-turning, goosepimply and bottom-clenching experience (well, that's what's happened to me when I've been caught doing something wrong) but I've only come across episodes of physical sickness in Jilly Cooper novels when people are always throwing "up and up and up". Gets a bit repetitive.
Feel really sorry for A based on my in-depth knowledge of the first two pages. My father was well into his 50s when I was born and my mother and I would have hated this reaction. As for the chap who thought he'd feel "weird" talking to an older man. Good grief! Does he have difficulty talking to his children and their friends, them being much younger and all.
Maybe his children's friends feel weird talking to him? I think I might.

HollaHolla · 07/03/2019 19:37

Oh dear lord. Are you all 12? A sounds like the only adult in this situation.
Vomiting/migraines/swooning with the vapours..... how do you deal with real life challenges?
Also, I’ll echo what others have said, and ask why it is quite so weird/gossip-worthy that someone could fall in love with someone NOT EXACTLY THE SAME as others.
She’s well shot of you all. Bitchy little witches.

LaMarschallin · 07/03/2019 19:38

Obviously, my father would have hated this reaction too; I just hope he wouldn't have known.
Oh lor'! Does A's husband know?
I know - RTFT, LaMar...

MaybeDoctor · 07/03/2019 19:39

I think that the messenger must have really exaggerated what was being said, otherwise A was being highly unreasonable to go so ballistic on all of you in a public space and with children present.

You were noticing and commenting on something that was true, after all. Not that polite, but are all of us polite all the time?

My DH and I are of different backgrounds. We look different to what is expected, if you see what I mean. The occasional person is surprised by this and mentions it to one of us afterwards: 'Oh, I didn't realise your wife was XYZ.' We find ourselves able not to freak out about this!

Whereas if you had been saying something that was untrue, or repeating very private information, then yes - A would be more justified in going savage about it.

In order of unreasonableness I think it goes:

The unknown messenger - who was massively shit stirring
A, for creating an enormous scene in public
You and your friends, for speaking about people when they are not present.

werideatdawn · 07/03/2019 19:40

Can you imagine these women in the Sistine Chapel though?

cptartapp · 07/03/2019 19:40

Apologies if already asked, but vomiting woman isn't also prone to screaming at works of art in Rome is she?

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2019 19:41

Grin ah the sistine screamer

HollaHolla · 07/03/2019 19:43

@cptartapp 🤣🤣🤣
Just spat my tea out, laughing at that one.

Decormad38 · 07/03/2019 19:43

You sound like a bunch of a holes. I think you should leave the poor woman and her dh alone. I don’t think you are going to be repairing that mess in a hurry. Straight out of the school yard. You may have kids but you haven’t grown up have you.

itsbritneybiatches · 07/03/2019 19:45

Haha the Sistine chapel.

Op did you call her yet

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 07/03/2019 19:46

I know it’s bad but I can’t stop thinking about that lady from Little Britain off the back of this thread Grin

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 07/03/2019 19:46

It's impossible to take this thread even slightly seriously.

howwillwedeal · 07/03/2019 19:46

@cptartapp that's a fucking genius comment! Although new MNS will be think WTF! Grin

screamifyouwant · 07/03/2019 19:57

I find this thread quite odd!!
So you and a few others bitch about another friend.someone overheard and told this friend. Friend went apeshit and told you all a few home truths .
What I don't get is it must be more than being a bit bitchy that she has older husband that you talked about as she wouldn't really have had a go so badly and been quite as personal if that's all it was .
Secondly bring sick , migraines Hmm
No definitely more to this , you are playing down what you all said and playing up how she reacted for sympathy.
Look you upset her own it and apologise , to do nothing is much worse .

cptartapp · 07/03/2019 19:58

Grin Grin Grin

Vulpine · 07/03/2019 20:02

Not sure if any one comes out of this story well including the mum who went apeshit

Hollygoverylightly · 07/03/2019 20:11

Ok evil maybe a bit harsh...our coven discuss other things than our friend's SOs

Coyoacan · 07/03/2019 20:16

Oh too many people getting on their high horses about this. Nearly all of us gossip. It doesn't make it right though.

Jupiter's apology hits the nail on the head and I hope the recipient of the apology will accept it.

In Islam gossip is judged almost as bad a murder and as I get older I can see why.

WildUnknown · 07/03/2019 20:17

Have skim read the thread and agree with the majority of comments

However what I would add for the OP if she's still reading is that the person she needs to extricate from her life after this is the person who was sick.

This sort of person is the sort who takes a situation that is not about them and puts themselves at the centre of the drama.

This is a person whose refusal to accept criticism is so total they will do anything to deflect it or make it stop. You don't want this person, who can't be honest with themselves never mind anyone else as a friend

As for "demolished us intellectually" what you mean by that is she responded in such a great way that you couldn't find any way to place the blame on her or justify yourselves which means that what you did say in the restaurant was BAD

That's why you clutched at straws to try and make her remark to the DD "unforgivable" and "as bad as"

You know this is bullshit

So the best advice anyone can give you is to re-evaluate this entire group and decide who is worth your friendship and distance yourself from the toxic.

ChampooPapi · 07/03/2019 20:18

@PaulHollywoodsSexGut Grin so much!

Ididalwayswonder · 07/03/2019 20:44

It sounds like a lot more was said:

  • Women at other table hearing you talking about A. If it was her that told A; she's hardly going to go running to A with something that wasn't worth repeating.

  • Excluding A's partner, because of his age; thereby excluding A and their children.

  • Drama Queen1 feigning sickness.

  • Drama Queen2 pretending to have a migraine.

  • The fact that you are in panic mode and talking about an apology, so quickly.

Maybe have a think about why you did it? Was it to score points? Was it to make yourself feel better? What it to follow the crowd? Whatever it was; if you really are sorry, own it and make sure you never behave like that again.

Etino · 07/03/2019 20:48

I think it’s true. A troll wouldn’t be able to resist embellishing.
A you are awesome 👏🏼

TompotBlenny · 07/03/2019 20:56

One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick

Was it Carrie Bradshaw, by any chance?

One element in this story which seems fishy to me is that a woman at a nearby table, unknown to the OP's group but known to A, would recount to A the gossip about her, and the individuals indulging in it, in sufficient detail as to make A react the way she did. I agree with the poster who said it seems more likely that another member of the group was running with the hare and hunting with the hounds, as it were. The OP, perhaps?

But whether it was one of the group, or the stranger at the next table - badly done! I have come across people in my life who simply can't wait to tell you the grim stuff that so-and-so has said about you... they are people who are compelled to cause upset in order to enjoy a moment of power/influence/favour, and are to be avoided at all costs!

IWantChocolates · 07/03/2019 21:10

My husband is 13 years older than I am. We've just had a baby, he's 48. I suppose I can look forward to being ostracised by people and hearing they've been gossiping about me.

Your group were curious about A's relationship? Let me educate you; it's no different from your relationship, I'll bet. They will have a laugh and occasionally argue and go on holiday and sit down to dinner together and make love.

Wondering about their relationship is no better than wondering about a gay relationship, or a relationship between a black man and a white woman, or a slim woman and an obese man. Just because A and her husband don't fit your group's "norm", you think you have the right to gossip and speculate?

Ugh. The more I think about it the angrier I get. I really hope I don't come across people like your group as my son grows older.

IWantChocolates · 07/03/2019 21:12

(And I mean DH is 48, not the baby!)