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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
Espressomartin · 07/03/2019 19:08

Everyone involved was over dramatic. You take the risk when you gossip and A should remember that there’s only one thing worse than being talked about Smile

YouokHun · 07/03/2019 19:08

She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick

Good for her, you sound like you deserved a fucking good kicking. Frankly ‘A’ sounds much brighter than you and probably should stick to other groups of people with a sense of decency, manners and a broader outlook. But she knows that now. You all sound bloody awful.

goldengummybear · 07/03/2019 19:09

The woman who vomited/had a migraine is ridiculous for trying to play the victim.

The man who left out the man because his age is a dick. Doesn't he have parents, uncles or talk to people at work?

I think there's more to the bitching than the age issue. "I mistook X's dad for her grandfather Blush" isn't nasty which is why I think much more nasty stuff was said.

I think A was fully justified in confronting you all in front of your kids. She must feel furious and humiliated. She thought you were all friends but you all turned out to be backstabbed. If this is a religious group then where is the morality and kindness that most religions preach?

Reflect on the incident - was there alcohol involved? (Not an excuse but a possible factor) Not initiating it but joining in is not a justifiable excuse really. How nasty did the bitching get? You seem to be downplaying it but based on A's reaction I wonder if it was brutal?

If you apologize to A don't use the excuse about not initiating but joining in. You should all be thoroughly ashamed.

LondonJax · 07/03/2019 19:10

You know, if I were a cynic, I'd say the vomiting woman could have been the one who 'mentioned' the conversation to 'A' and the vomiting was her realising what she'd unleashed. Because, just because a woman waits about whilst paying her bill, doesn't necessarily make her the 'snitch'.

It's a huge coincidence that, on a night out, the person sitting at the very next table not only overhears enough to be able to identify 'A' but also knows her and enough of the mums for 'A' to be able to identify them.

No, I think one of your beloved friends, OP, has felt a bit guilty overnight and had a word with 'A' and it's backfired. And that would certainly make me vomit if I'd done that. I'd look a little closer to home if I were looking for the person who spiralled this one out of control.

And I'm pretty sure 'A's DH is probably pretty relieved he didn't have to chat away an afternoon with a man who's obviously not long out of his teens...

DuchessOfPhysics · 07/03/2019 19:12

I never get invited to couple things either (as a single parent)

I think couples want to socialise with very similar couples. It's all very homogenous and two-by-two in to the ark.

Women with older partners aren't the only ones who aren't invited to couple stuff.

DoraTheExplorer3 · 07/03/2019 19:14

I also agree that whoever transferred the talk to ‘A’ has caused a massive unnecessary drama.. the group and the snitch are all as bad as each other.

But “A” is the only decent one in this story

XingMing · 07/03/2019 19:15

This is where I despair of chat threads. Overtalking and over thinking, on every side of the conversation. None of the coffee klatch should have repeated kitchen chat. The DH who was uncomfortable entertaining a father a generation older needs to consider his views, and the woman being discussed needs to hoist in real life opinions and understand that most of the "gossip" was idle speculation and not gossip.

MulticolourMophead · 07/03/2019 19:16

Gossip is perfectly legal! Nothing to be proud of but it really didn’t sound very bad.

And what makes you the person who decides if it's bad enough to be upset about?

LondonJax I also thought it was unlikely to be the woman at the other table who said something. I'd agree that the vomiting woman is the most likely candidate.

And the husband who didn't feel he could talk to A's husband is an immature dick.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 07/03/2019 19:16

Is this thread in the DM yet?

sagradafamiliar · 07/03/2019 19:17

I really want to know what was said to 'intellectually decimate' each and every individual to the point of physical illness though.

stopwining · 07/03/2019 19:17

My husband is 20 years older than me, I met him shortly after splitting with my ex, who's brother is married to one of my best friends.

Could have been awkward, but it's not, because she's not judgemental and gossipy.

I had a lot of insecurities at the age of 24, how it would affect my life and friendship circles getting together with someone much older, who might not have a lot in common with my friends partners.
I am glad my friends and their partners are not like you.

10 years later and it couldn't be better.

I know you have, and I hope you will continue to apologise. although you did not instigated the conversation, you took part in the judgements.

If I was A you would no longer be a 'friend' of mine. I would choose to surround myself with kind people who look for the best in things, not the worst.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 07/03/2019 19:19

But “A” is the only decent one in this story

A is a thin skinned drama queen.

IncrediblySadToo · 07/03/2019 19:20

What did she say when she was ‘picking’ on you?

PortiaCastis · 07/03/2019 19:20

Me neither Duchess and I'm a single parent too and been a topic of scorn as a teenage Mother so I know what it's like to be the target of bitching

Nautiloid · 07/03/2019 19:22

This all seems OTT to me. People do gossip. It's pretty shit to do it in public, when only one group member is missing, but A seems to have overreacted massively too.

XingMing · 07/03/2019 19:24

When I was a parent of young child, DH and I were much older than most of the other parents. One young father remembered another dad as a parent from his senior years at prep school. I was friendly with them all, went to lunches and birthday parties with other mums and dads, but never to peer socials or parent parties. We were 15 years older and had our own friends. And yes, there were big age differences in some couples: so what.

Prequelle · 07/03/2019 19:25

I'm not even going to read the thread because I'm just on shock at the OP. Grown adults vomited, and had to spend a day in bed over this? That's pathetic. How do they actually cope with life.

JingsMahBucket · 07/03/2019 19:25

@ChorltonCreamery I highly suggest you get this deleted before the DM picks it up based on all the rapid fire and extreme responses on here. You’ve learned your lesson so the thread has probably served its purpose.

howwillwedeal · 07/03/2019 19:26

*But “A” is the only decent one in this story

A is a thin skinned drama queen.*

But the vomiting, migraine suffering snowflakes aren't?

Why the fuck should A suck it up? Thin skinned because she called them on it..... yeah right!

CliffordDanger · 07/03/2019 19:27

Did I read correctly, that the gossip has also got back to the children? My dad was much older than the other dads at school, in an area where the norm was to have kids when both parents were late teens or early 20s. I was acutely, horribly aware of the fact people thought our family set up was strange and it fed into a pathological fear about my dad dying because he was so "old", as was pointed out frequently to me by other kids. Horrid.

howwillwedeal · 07/03/2019 19:29

@JingsMahBucket how do you think OP has learned her lesson?

I've never said this before and hopefully never will again, but bring on the DM! Hopefully, A, bloke who can't talk to older guy and the coven will read it there!

Usuallyinthemiddle · 07/03/2019 19:31

Goodness. When you've all finished taking to your beds with vapours, I think you owe her an apology.
Then move on. Gossip rarely goes right...

howwillwedeal · 07/03/2019 19:31

I have to say I'm 15 and 18 years older than friends that have invited me away! Not because they have to but because they want to, we get on fabulously and looking forward to our weekend away!

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 07/03/2019 19:34

And tbh if the gossip did get back to her via her DD ( who might've been really u0et) I don't blame her for going for your gossipy,shallow arses.

XingMing · 07/03/2019 19:34

During the last years of prep, various members of the parent body partner-swapped so often, no one could keep up. School chums ended up as half-sibs or cousins. As the complete non-participant, it was sometimes hilarious, and sometimes heart breaking.