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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
Katterinaballerina · 07/03/2019 16:49

Setting aside the drama, upset and upchucking, adults should know better than to gossip in a public place. Even if you’d been chatting about how good Just For Men is nowadays and the joys of SAGA coach trips she wouldn’t have been happy to have her business discussed by your little circle.

DoneLikeAKipper · 07/03/2019 16:50

If it's a massive age gap then it's a sign of a major power imbalance/inequality in a relationship and not something many people would want much to do with in their own homes.

I’ve read this several times, and still have no idea what you’re on about. What a weird thought.

Rixera · 07/03/2019 16:50

@sagradafamiliar well, that's a sweeping statement and a half

Bluntness100 · 07/03/2019 16:51

If it's a massive age gap then it's a sign of a major power imbalance/inequality in a relationship and not something many people would want much to do with in their own homes.

And the award for the most ridiculous statement of the day goes to,,,

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 07/03/2019 16:53

So some of you are being stuck and getting migraines because she called you out on your bitching? Erm grow up. You behaved like teenagers you got caught, be accountable, apologise genuinely, don't do it again. The overly dramatic reactions are making of about you not her, which is more teenage behaviour....

Rixera · 07/03/2019 16:54

You know, I've decided she's right. There is a power imbalance. But is he a cradlesnatcher, influencing me with his worldly wisdom, or am I a gold digger guilty of elder abuse? So hard to tell when we spend most of our time drinking tea and watching Star Trek 🤔

Pinkbells · 07/03/2019 16:54

I guess you said it all in the title. Gossip is never right and is best avoided altogether!

Stargazer888 · 07/03/2019 16:54

I love the irony of women judging other women for gossiping on this website of all things. They commented on a women married to a man old enough to be her father. I find this hardly shocking. Yes they should apologize, and yes they shouldn't have, but I think most would make similar observations. They didn't say he was a pervert, they said he was a lot older. He is.

Nonibaloni · 07/03/2019 16:55

If it's a massive age gap then it's a sign of a major power imbalance/inequality in a relationship and not something many people would want much to do with in their own homes.

Maybe like the 15 years between me and DH (technically old enough to be my father). Where i our earn him 2-1 and my job takes priority over his? Not that any of that matters, we pool money and don’t stand in each other’s way.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 16:55

Good post marvellous. Common sense and perspective has prevailed at last!

MyShinyWhiteTeeth · 07/03/2019 16:55

'The circle is broken' - is this a witches circle?

I had some very gossipy friends when younger. I enjoyed being part of a group and would excuse their bitchiness. I would be part of the nastiness by staying and listening rather than leaving or telling them to tone it down. They were my friends and I didn't want to be a killjoy.

I eventually got a slight backbone and didn't 100% support a few things they said and did; I became the one excluded and bitched about. I desperately wanted their friendship back but ended up losing all self respect with my fawning over them.

If I was you then I would be wary about being chucked out of the 'circle' myself by showing too much support for A.

Fishwifecalling · 07/03/2019 16:57

No one on MN gossips just like no one drinks more than a thimble full of alcohol of week hmm

I have to say reading this, I was hoping that there are a lot of people reading this thread and not daring to post against the tide.

It's not the crime of the century. I'm guilty of liking a gossip. 99.9% of the time it's not intended to hurt and I'd be mortified in the ops situation - as she is.

Apologise profusely and tell her that you value her, then it's up to her.

SofaSurfer20 · 07/03/2019 16:58

Self influcted

Springwalk · 07/03/2019 16:58

MN is littered with the fallout and hurt that is caused by gossips like you, to your credit you have at least been very honest about your part in this childish nasty situation.

Love the sound of friend A! Please text her and ask her to come and join us on MN. You should have tried harder to keep her as a friend op, she sounds both loyal and lovely. Unlike the other 'friends' that were there.

You are a terrible example to your children, and have really managed to ruin what was obviously a very nice friendship group. As for the others in the group, I would steer clear, you may think they are nice until it is your turn to be on the receiving end, and you may change your mind then....

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 07/03/2019 16:58

You all sound crackers to me. Including A.

sagradafamiliar · 07/03/2019 16:59

Ooh quite a few posters picked up on that. No idea why it's controversial when I've never seen big age gaps be very well received on here.
The only posters who think they're a good idea are in age gap relationships themselves.
If my daughter at the age of 18 gets with someone double her age, I would worry. Most people would.
People can do what they want, I don't care. But the man mentioned clearly wasn't friends with the couple and so he can choose who he likes to have in his home and that's fine.

icannotremember · 07/03/2019 17:02

I avoid women groups for this reason

Hmm
Aeroflotgirl · 07/03/2019 17:02

I learned very early in my life that gossip never works. She sounded lovely, and you have lost a good friend over this. I would apologise and see what happens. Just accept she may not want to be your friend now. Lesson learned.

Libertylee · 07/03/2019 17:03

Good for her. Maybe you’ll think twice next time before gossiping.

Grace212 · 07/03/2019 17:04

sagrada I'm also surprised by your comments.

just out of interest, where do you think the power lies, if you believe there's an imbalance?

gruffaloschildgonewild · 07/03/2019 17:05

So she is UR and unforgivable because she called you all on your bad manners and spreading gossip about her behind her back? Hmm Aren't you all a prize lot. How about admitting your mistake and apologising to her? You didn't not initiate the conversation but you participated in the gossip and did not at any time indicate that you tried to stop the gossip either. She did well in standing up for herself and showing you all your true colours. The person who got sick and got a migraine need to get over themselves as well. Shame on you lot.

Rixera · 07/03/2019 17:06

Sagrada, I think the issue there would be your daughter being 18 and the inherent naiveté there.

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 07/03/2019 17:06

Tbh, I can see a PP's point- I can't see a group of male friends caring about this kind of nonsense.

Twerking9til5 · 07/03/2019 17:07

Apologise (as you have)
Have a long hard think about ageism. And how long the fertile years are, and people's choices.

I was already old enough to be a grandmother when I had my first.
Plenty of people have uncles and aunts who are younger than them.

This is life when people have second families.

Everyone just needs to get out of their cosy complacent little bubbles. I accept that the talk may not have been actually malicious, but the ooh ahhh about an age gap makes you sound like Stepford Wives.

sagradafamiliar · 07/03/2019 17:07

Grace the comments aren't very surprising though. I'm surprised anyone is surprised when I read opinions the same as my own almost on the daily on here.
Clearly, the power lies in favour of the older person in the relationship. Especially when the person was a grown adult when you were born. Vastly, vastly differing life stages.