To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

but are you ok with not getting a pay rise because your company does really well out of brexit? are you ok with leavers reaping all the rewards that come our way because you didn’t vote for it

I am 100% happy with all of that.

I’m sure I don’t need to tell you why.

No it won't be the EU, it will be leavers beloved WTO, because once the UK leaves the EU without a deal it results in WTO rules, which means that all countries must be treated the same under MFN rules.

You mean the WTO who have said there is no requirement for hard borders after Brexit? That WTO?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136%3fmode=amp

Or do you mean the WTO that has never actually enforced any countries borders?

You can’t get away from it, EU states employees or EU employees are the only possible people who would cause this.

Why on earth were you "taken aback"?
Experts have been warning about the effects of Brexit since before the referendum. If you chose to ignore experts why would you care what an Oncologist thought? Eat some daisies and i'm sure magic will happen.

Only a leave voter thoughtless and uneducated fool wouldn't have thought anything would change after Brexit happens.

Did you read the papers about the likelihood of food standards being dropped and workers rights not being worth the paper they are written on? The fact the IRA is possibly sending bombs over to UK again? Or is that still Project Fear?

Sadly, Brexit will affect everything and everyone, with the probable exception of those whose idea it was in the first place, and those rich enough to fund the misinformation campaigns that produced the ridiculous situation that we all now find ourselves in. Unless Theresa May, Jeremy Corbin et al. have a "Road to Damascus" moment in the next couple of weeks and realise how much better off we would be by staying where we are (apart from all the that has already been poured down the drain), all we can probably do is wait until the next election and get our collective revenge.

Given that there are no actual proper preparations for how to manage Brexit, I'm not surprised that ther are no preparations for supply of essential medication.
So many things are likely to be negatively affected, but I am not going to spend time listing them because I know I'll be accused of being a lentil-weaving lefty liberal snowflake.

Does anyone remember the Leave adverts about the NHS shown before the referendum? The Remain scenario was an waiting room packed full of glum people waiting for hours. The Leave scenario showed a half-empty waiting room and patients being seen quickly by smiling doctors.

I must have missed the one where Brian is told by the doctor that his radiotherapy treatment for cancer will be delayed and the one where nurses Ana and Joao go back to Portugal because their partners don’t feel secure or welcome in the UK.

Most HGV drivers are self employed now.

I'm not surprised. I work for a GP and we have been told by the Government not only not to allow people to order medication early (fair enough), but to reassure our patients that there will not be medication shortages. I'm not happy to do that.

but are you ok with not getting a pay rise because your company does really well out of brexit? are you ok with leavers reaping all the rewards that come our way because you didn’t vote for it

Yep, happy for that to happen - I truly believe that unicorns don't exist and that the Earth is a sphere (well, an oblate spheroid). So long as it's mutual, of course.

Great.
If I was in charge I’d make you sign a legal document, & I’d sign it too, because I’ll never regret voting leave.
But I’m certain as the years go on and the UK prospers, the gobby remainers will slink off into the distance never to be heard of again

Bejam, you need to actually read what the article says rather than just the headline.

"The Geneva-based trade body where countries negotiate the rules of international trade would only intervene in a dispute over trade if one of its 164 member countries made a complaint."

Other countries would complain if the UK, as a third nation, was being given preferential treatments by the EU, and vice versa.

"One expert warned that it would fall either to the UK or EU - not the WTO - to set up border checks in order to protect the integrity of their internal markets from illegal activity and divergent trade rules."

So the UK might be fine with not protecting the integrity of its market, but the EU would be.

"You can’t get away from it, EU states employees or EU employees are the only possible people who would cause this".

No you leavers caused this by voting to leave, this is what leaving without a deal means.

But I’m certain as the years go on and the UK prospers, the gobby remainers will slink off into the distance never to be heard of again

Wow. Impressive guarantees there. Doing the lottery tonight too?

LMAO at the protestation that Leave voters shouldn't be first in line for the consequences of their own bought-and-paid-for shitstorm

If I was in charge I’d make you sign a legal document

Weren't you wailing above about the horror of Leave voters being identified in any way, and how this would be a ghastly oppression and bullying, and thus the need for special protected status?

The mere fact that Brexit is to damage people's livelihoods should have been enough to cancel it. Now Brexit is going to put people's lives at risk, Article 50 should be revoked.

I'm fortunate in that I've seen a private doctor for my condition in the past few months & he's given me prescriptions for 4 months supply of my meds. Along with my NHS prescriptions, I'll be ok til the end of August.
My friend with Type I Diabetes does not have this option & is very worried as a result.

Ironically one of the biggest Leavers in my acquaintance has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer (or prostrate cancer as he calls it). He's not worried about any delay in his treatment as 'it'll be ok'. I hope for his family's sake that it is.

The WTO Most-Favoured Nation (MFN) Principle means we can have an open border with Ireland and France and everybody on the planet. So long as we treat them all the same.

Either we take control of our borders or we open them all.

@1tisILeClerc

you are incredibly stupid.

Insult number 13 in the Remainer Manual

because I’ll never regret voting leave.

So you wouldn't regret it even if it was your relative being made to wait longer for cancer treatment?

And no regrets, despite a lot of the campaign promises / statements made by Leave have now proven to be untrue?

LonelyandTiredAndLow RTFT I voted to remain by the way.

Has anyone mentioned the Millenium Bug yet? Surely we can't have got to page 9 without that cropping up!

Or do you mean the WTO that has never actually enforced any countries borders?
It isn't about the WTO enforcing UK borders, it's about the UK doing it. Taking back control of our borders was one of the few things that Leavers explicitly voted for.

Bejam how will the UK get medicines if it doesn't have contracts and agreements in place to buy and import them? How do we take control of our borders without taking the time needed to control them?

I came back from France the other day and there was a hold up at the tunnel because of a strike I think. There were 22km of traffic james all the way nearly back to Dunkirk.

As a one off, I guess the freight companies and the companies whose goods took hours to get through will accept the loss of time and therefore money that this cost.

So what will be causing the traffic jam after Brexit? Will it be the pixies again? No, it would be the EU and EU state’s border controls.

You can pretend there are pixies in any way possible. That doesn’t change the fact that the only possible people who could cause this would be the EU and it’s members.

I am still waiting for any remainer to mske any sort of credible argument that anybody else would do that.

And do you know what, if a country approached the EU and said, people are dying in our hospitals, we’re running out of food and children are starving, what do you think the EU would do?

Do you think they would say ‘Okay, we’re going to make sure the essentials of life get through to you, we’re going to expedite them through to you’?

Like any good human or benign state would do?

Or would they say ‘We don’t care, we’re too busy counting TVs and timber and we can’t be bothered. You brought this on yourself.’

Because there are 2 options.

1. Remainers are lying and scaremongering to con people into supporting Remain and it’s not going to happen

2. The EU and it’s member states will do this and they are an evil, genocidal bunch of maniacs who are capable of standing back and watching people die for the sake of a trading block.

What are the other options? Like I say, none of this says anything nice about Remainers.

New Brexit goals: cause ourselves food and medicine shortages, then depend on the organisation we were desperate to leave, to send us rescue parcels

The words 'Sherlock', 'no' and 'shit' all rush powerfully to mind.