To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

Had those who voted remain accepted the result instead of behaving like bad losers they would have been much more progress.

Progress like abandoning the long negotiated, internationally agreed Good Friday Agreement to guarantee no hard border in Ireland , between the UK and Ireland?

Brexit puts the UK into a paradox, where they cannot honour the Good Friday Agreement and leave the customs union and single market.

What progress is there to be made other than trying to force MPs to vote for the Withdrawing Agreement until they agree

#withdrawArticle50

They haven't attempted to block it. They've negotiated an agreement with us that is detailed and took time. Our parliament voted it down. There was always going to be a two year wait to actually leave. They negotiated a deal that works for EU members like Ireland because that's what the EU is for. What fucking planet are you on to think otherwise?

One thing I’ve noticed about brexiteers is they like to judge other people by their own standards of making shit up so they can win an argument.

Again you are speculating.
As theBBC are.

So are the Royal College of Radiologists speculating also, sallisunbeam?

Brexit will sadly affect a lot of these type of things. I work in Pharma and access to medicines will be slower with the UK missing out on first access to new treatments (pharma prioritizes US and EU first). My husband is a cancer research scientist and a lot of funding for research comes from the EU. Brexit from a medical perspective is potentially a disaster. Sadly these things were not explained to the public at the time of the vote.

This. I also work in pharma and the damage is going to be unbelievable both long and short term.

Anyone who thought this Government capable of effective forward planning for anything is deluded.

So are the Royal College of Radiologists speculating also, sallisunbeam?

I doubt they will answer you, because they know the correct answer to this question, and it's not one which fits their narrative.

Likewise UK MP's who voted remain think they are entitled to ignore the instruction they received from the Majority of their Employers in June 2016

MPs are not employed by their constituents. They are representatives - the UK being a representative democracy.

MPs have a duty to act and vote in the interests of their constituents - both those who voted for them and those who voted for other candidates. Voters do not 'instruct' MPs on how to vote. If people do not like how their MPs vote, they are free to vote for someone else at the next election, or indeed to put themselves forward as candidates.

You can kiss goodbye to the NHS too, the US are circling like vultures ready to pick us clean. So much freedom

^THIS^

The only freedom that is going to be gained in the UK is the freedom for our government to sell off the NHS and a relaxation of rules for their dirty arms trading with the Middle East. Oh the glory!

Don’t believe for a moment Brexit is for the benefit of the country. It’s about the wealthy elite profiteering from economic turmoil.

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT

Right. For that to happen, the EU would be effectively blockading us and stopping essential medicine to come into the UK. They would basically be doing what Maduro is currently doing to Venezuela, to worldwide condemnation.

And you think a group that would do that are one we desire should desire to be a part of? A group which would literally kill cancer patients to punish us?

It won’t be the UK stopping drugs etc entering the country, it will be the EU. Do you actually believe people who would blockade drugs from entering, effectively murdering people are the good guys?

Jesus. Just when you think Remainers can’t get any worse, they go out there and threaten cancer patients to deliberately scare them. Because either Remainers are lying about this, or the EU really are a genocidal bunch of maniacs prepared to watch people die while they sit on top of a pile of drugs smugly saying ‘Rules are rules, we’re not letting you have them’. You can’t have it both ways, it has to be one of the two, and neither of them say anything nice about remainers.

But it didn't mean they had to stop production in Swindon

What is the benefit of Honda staying in the UK if EU only last month agreed that Japan could have a free trade deal to sell cars in EU without tariffs? By moving to Japan they keep more employment in Japan and all profits remain in Japan.

Honda started production in Swindon in 1989, 30 years ago, and the EU agrees a free trade deal only a few weeks before UK is due to leave the EU. Yeah right.

15% of all German cars are sold in the UK. Loss of those sales will result in large job losses in Germany. So the Free Trade Deal agreed last month, 30 years after Honda started in the UK, was just Germany's way of saying:

"If we are going to loss jobs in our car industry will make certain UK losses too"

Your listening to the BBC? The same network thst have only ever mentioned the negatives and tried scaremongering the entire country since the referendum was announced. They have been the most biased from the start.

If EU are not afraid for UK to leave the EU why have they attempted to block UK's departure since the 2016 referendum?

They can’t stop us leaving. We could just walk away with No Deal. We haven’t don’t that because the Govt admit it will be a catastrophe for our economy.

*done

In a Sky News interview (so, not the pesky, supposedly Remain supporting BBC ) at the Geneva Car Show, the boss of Aston Martin was asked about Brexit scaremongering

"None of the car companies will turn off overnight as there are big investments to make, platforms in the UK, factories, but over a period of time, as the car companies change over to the new cars, those cars will not come to the UK....Nothing to do with fear, everything to do with reality"

A different industry but another pesky expert pointing out that it's not Project Fear but Project Reality

Also it was forecast that around 800, 000 Jobs would be lost. Never happened. Indeed since the 2016 referendum unemployment has decreased

Only by virtue of zero hours job and people on part time and temporary work because those are the only jobs they can get.

TriciaH87, if the BBC has only ever mentioned the negatives of Brexit, what do you imagine that Nigel Farage has been talking about during the countless hours of airtime he has had on the BBC?

How naive of you to think that the world is not connected in every way and that exiting a huge continental grouping would not effect every part of our society.

The EU hasn't attempted to block Brexit, I think a lot of countries are sick of it and would rather be shot of us quickly than give an extension for more dithering

So why are the EU not letting UK have a free trade deal like they have recently agreed with Japan? Japan has never been a member state of the EU. If Non EU Countries can get a free trade deal with EU why can UK not receive the same when they are no longer an EU Country?

EVERYTHING is going to be affected! Why are people surprised about this? We may be an island but do not live in a vacuum.

Don’t believe for a moment Brexit is for the benefit of the country. It’s about the wealthy elite profiteering from economic turmoil.

Er, no it’s not. The “elite” are the most pro-Remain group in the country. They benefit most from the EU. The AB social classes, the richest in society are the only ones who voted by a majority for Remain. The poorer you someone is, the more likely to vote Leave they are.

The EU is an organisation of the wealthy for the wealthy.

I understand that people are rightly angry and worried about loved ones whose cancer treatment will (no doubt about it) be delayed due to Brexit.

But please - can we stop saying vengeful stuff like "I wish only Remainers got the drugs/isotopes and Leavers suffer".

Firstly, many people voted Leave after having heard what the two campaigns said and believing genuinely that the NHS would get 350 million/week more. There is NO POINT blaming them for honestly believing that the Leave campaign wouldn't be allowed to outright lie through their fucking teeth and break the law flagrantly in the way that they did.

Hard to bear in mind how many "Leavers" were voting for genuine misplaced concern when there are constant busy trolls/Brextremists around being very vocal. But those are not the majority of Leave voters. Some of them are not voters at all but paid trolls (making no comment on individual posters here).

Secondly - a people's vote is getting more likely. A Remain campaign cannot be successful on the basis of abusing those who previously voted Leave as pigshit stupid. I voted Remain and thought I knew a bit about Europe/how stuff worked. Turns out I was totally ignorant. Most people, apart from a few specialists, were. And unfortunately those specialists didn't get much airtime because fucking idiots at the BBC thought prancing Farage was "better TV entertainment".

It is really easy to have 20/20 hindsight. But demonising everyone who put their cross in the "Leave" box does nothing to help.

Only by virtue of zero hours job and people on part time and temporary work because those are the only jobs they can get

Twist it any which way you like. Fact is unemployment had reduced since 2016 referendum

If anybody on here is genuinely an undecided lurker, are you convinced by the Leavers on here and their mutually contradictory narratives, often in the same post?

"It's all scaremongering, nothing Bad could possibly happen due to Brexit... everything is going to be Wonderful... but yes there is Bad Stuff happening and it's the fault of the EU/Remoaners... but it's all going to be Amazing because the UK is Great and the World will bow before us... the vast majority of the UK have voted to Leave therefore it must be done and as Hard as possible... but we're so weak that merely the negative thinking of this tiny minority of Remoaners can scupper our predestined glide to the Sunlit Uplands..."