To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

But also the nhs etc is in the position it's in because of the eu and overcrowding so you can't win

Bullshit! fuck all to do with the EU, its a domestic issue only.

It was shite in the 80s and 90s, its chronically underfunded, approx 1 to 2% less per year compared to the European average, that adds up over the years.

What will now make it even worse is less EU staff working in it, problems of getting short shelf life drugs and far higher non eu migration - i'd rather an EU nurse, trained to European standards treating me than one from Africa or Asia, who struggles with basic english, as we've now reduced the english test std's to increase numbers..... brilliant! not!

To doireallyneedto

Was GFA approved internationally? I thought it was Deal made between the English and Irish governments?

Were Brussels involved?

Was GFA approved internationally? I thought it was Deal made between the English and Irish governments?

Were Brussels involved?

Several strands of EU membership are baked into the GFA, there's a discussion of the implications here:
publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201617/ldselect/ldeucom/76/7607.htm

I don't think that missed has quite cottoned on to the fact that Ireland and the UK are two separate countries and that therefore a formal, signed agreement between them is an international agreement The only "approval" required (although to be fair, it was also dependent on referendums in both countries which was duly given) was from the two sovereign states

But there again, he/she thought that Scotland was part of England, so we already know that he/she is a bit ignorant of both geography and politics

@MissedTheBoatAgain - Was GFA approved internationally?

I have tried my best to be polite but are you really that stupid or are you just pretending?

@MissedTheBoatAgain - you still haven't answered my question: Do you think it is acceptable for the UK to break an international peace agreement in order to deliver a no deal Brexit?

"But also the nhs etc is in the position it's in because of the eu and overcrowding so you can't win"

Not at all.

All of the research shows that EU immigrants actually use less healthcare than those UK nationals of the same age, its called the healthy migrant effect and leads to lower waiting times in areas with higher levels of immigration. Studies from Oxford, UCL, LSE all show this as well as the fact that if we have lower levels of EU immigration it would lead to lower levels of tax receipts and therefore money for NHS funding, without a corresponding fall in demand, leaving the NHS worse off.

Furthermore EU migrants make up a significant minority of NHS, and at the moment we have a recruitment crisis due to them leaving.

investment in what is drying up?

You obviously haven't looked at the FDI figures - from the UK Trade Policy Observatory:

Since the EU referendum, inflows of FDI to the UK have followed a downward trend: the longest continuous decline since the beginning of the data series in 2003.

Our analysis shows that the Brexit vote may have reduced the number of foreign investment projects to the UK by some 16-20 per cent. For services FDI, the gap is even larger: investment may be some 25 per cent lower than if the UK had voted to remain in the EU.

Oops.

Was GFA approved internationally? I thought it was Deal made between the English and Irish governments?

FFS.

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Was GFA approved internationally?
It was registered as a treaty with the United Nations.

But you need to seriously make more of an effort if you want to avoid reinforcing the "Leavers are a bit simple" meme. You keep making these fundamental and basic gaffes on geopolitics. An agreement between two countries is an international agreement by default.

Fall in FDI has been well documented for the last 18 months or so. Though depends what you generally tend to read, eh moomoo?

You have forgotten that both conservative and labour parties agreed to honour the referendum in their manifestos

VoteLeave said that we wouldn’t start the process to leave without negotiating a deal first in theirs. Is it only some manifestos that are supposed to be upheld or all of them?

There's no such thing as the English government.

No one has said people shouldn't vote how they want. But having voted it's time they owned up to it and worked for what they want to happen now, instead of blaming everyone else, when the outcome isn't going their way.

There's no such thing as the English government.

Indeed, and with a partially devolved system in the UK that is a problem. There ought to be an English Government to deal with wholly English matters. It would then be interesting to see how an English Parliament then dealt with English regions - ignored them as before, I would suspect.

MissedTheBoatAgain - your user name is rather unfortunate because that appears to be exactly what you have done. You don't live here and you have made it abundantly clear by your postings that you haven't got a clue about what constitutes the United Kingdom.

BTW would you try to answer my question as to how the UK I was born into differs from the one my father was born into. (He was born in 1917, which might begin to give you a clue.)

Did I miss the elections to the English government? Doesn't a bilateral treaty with another sovereign nation count as international if the sovereign nation is Ireland?

You have forgotten that both conservative and labour parties agreed to honour the referendum in their manifestos

That was before the full extent of the criminality in the Leave campaign came to light. That alone releases them from this promise.

A majority should always take priority of the minority regardless of how small the difference between the two.

How long for? If for ever, then we shouldn't have had the second referendum at all. If until facts become known that change the circumstances leading up to the original referendum decision, then we're certainly in that position now.

Manifestos are wish lists and parties can't be held to them. As was seen after the 2015 election when Cameron promised to enfranchise Britons who had lived overseas for more than 15 years, and they also promised a commitment to the Single Market. Both of those pledges bit the dust.

What the losing side promises is neither here nor there after the result - are not in a position to implement manifesto pledges.

@MissedTheBoatAgain seems to have gone missing. I wonder what his/her new name will be when (s)he comes back?

VoteLeave was not a political party, it was a loose gathering from right across the political spectrum wanting to leave the EU. Anything it said could not be expected to be upheld in the way that the undertakings in a party's manifesto can be when peple vote for that party. Against whom would they be upheld?

Getting back to the original post... maybe cancer will do the decent thing and just target the Brexit voters who chose this. What price sovereignty, eh?

VoteLeave was not a political party,
It was the officially recognised campaign supporting the leave option.