To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

[cantbearsed1]

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

For information I am British citizen, but I did not vote at all as I do not live and work in UK or EU.
How long have you been living outside the UK MissedTheBoatAgain? Have you ever lived here?

Not directly, but many indirect comments about those who voted leave being stupid.

I wouldn't say Leave voters were stupid, but the Leave campaign presented that option as something that was relatively simple and uncomplicated when it was neither of those things. Expectations were created which the leaders of the Leave movement knew were not possible (and which they knew they'd never be responsible for delivering if they won).

But the greatest damage has been done by the Leave campaign abandoning it's promises of moderation and rationality as soon as the result was announced. Their statements of "This is not about leaving the Common Market" etc. were quickly brushed under the carpet in a swing to call for the hardest of all imaginable Brexits.

The list of warnings in the Remain campaign are coming true
like what?

Which warnings? Can you provide examples?

Everything that was labelled Project Fear by the Leave campaign before the referendum. You really couldn't have missed them if you followed the mainstream media. Even within social media bubbles these come up as things to mock. There were specific pre-referendum warnings about threats to:

• the car industry
• the aerospace agency
• access to medical diagnostic and therapeutic radionuclides
• medicine regulations
• chemical regulations
• tariffs and access to markets
• the Irish border question
• customs/border delays
• rights of UK citizens in the EU and EU citizens in the UK
• recruitment and staff retention in the NHS
• veterinary oversight and animal welfare in abattoirs
• compromised food safety

I love how this and GFA is a tremendous surprise to Leave supporters. In an "I don't love it. It is fucking depressing " kind of way.

none of those things have actually happened though

"If the Majority suffer as a result of their own vote that was their choice."

Which would be fine if the Majority were the ONLY ones to suffer from their choice, but their choice will punish everyone.

I have lived outside UK for 30 years.

A vote cast by someone who failed all their tests at school has the same validity as a vote cast by someone who has an IQ over 200.

Again I will ask the question:

Why are people not allowed to vote how they want?

Thanks DogInATent. All those plus..

The Government’s latest economic forecasts suggest the economy will be smaller by 2% if we stay in the single market,
5% if we sign a trade deal
and 8% if we fall back on WTO rules.

Pretty similar predictions as made during the referendum campaign with outcomes. Slightly better than initially predicted for staying in the single market and slightly worse if we fall back to WTO than initially predicted.

"I have lived outside UK for 30 years."

Oh I see. Yeah, if I knew I wouldn't be personally affected by any of the hardship and pain that's coming up as a result of an uninformed mass vote, I'd be able to lie back comfortably and say "hey its how the world works, innit?" as well.

Why are people not allowed to vote how they want?

They are, of course they are. And I'll say again nobody has said otherwise.

You were making the point that the government HAS to implement leaving because of the referendum which is incorrect.

Democracy doesn't mean what happens in the ballot box is finite, it is an ever-evolving and continuing process.

none of those things have actually happened though

Pound has dropped, businesses are leaving, jobs are being shed, NHS staff are leaving, investment is drying up etc. Some of it has happened but some might be preventable.

To Hammer

You have forgotten that both conservative and labour parties agreed to honour the referendum in their manifestos

businesses are setting up, jobs are being created,
investment in what is drying up?

And unemployment is at its lowest for a long time

smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

none of those things have actually happened though

You've missed the car industry announcements, the announcements from BAe and Airbus, the customs rehearsal at Calais yesterday, the cash flight of investment firms, etc. You missed the announcement that an entire electric vehicle battery assembly line was turned around at sea and sent back to Japan after the decision was made not to make that investment in UK factories.

I'm not sure people understand the problems with the radionuclides and other perishable goods in the event of No Deal*. There's going to be a hard border on all the ferry routes to France, Netherlands, etc. the channel tunnel and all flights between the UK and EU. Outgoing goods will need some checks, but in both directions there will need to be extensive checks on incoming goods. These are the problem. It chokes up both ends and delays the ships/trains/planes involved.

This is the border control that leave wanted, isn't it?

But good news, EU migration to the UK is down - but ROW is up!

MissedTheBoatAgain - maybe you could share your opinion of Brexit from the point of view an immigrant? How does it look from your end?

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• I do know people that genuinely believe No Deal means No Brexit, but that's whole other problem...

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-11/u-k-economy-wilts-as-brexit-jitters-hit-business-investment

Firms are putting projects on hold due to heightened fears of a no-deal Brexit

If unemployment is down, who is going to do the jobs currently "stolen" from British people by all the Nast foreigners we are chasing out with our righteous will .

You have forgotten that both conservative and labour parties agreed to honour the referendum in their manifestos

No. I haven't but thanks.

A manifesto is, again, a non-binding document.

You are mistaken in the way you think the UK system works.

Nast? Obviously I meant nasty

To Littlespaces

If you read the 5 conditions of that index a lot is assumed or deemed

Leave voters, particularly the "too stupid to

Surprise, the racist doesn't even live here. Although I doubt you ever did if you thought Scotland is in England.

There's going to be a hard border on all the ferry routes to France, Netherlands, etc. the channel tunnel and all flights between the UK and EU.

And doing that, means that the UK are breaking an international peace agreement, as a hard border with the EU puts a hard British border on the island of Ireland.

@MissedTheBoatAgain - you have completely ignored all my (and other's) points about the GFA. I am asking you explicitly: Do you think it is acceptable for the UK to break an international peace agreement in order to deliver a no deal Brexit?