To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

not that I read leaflets anyway.

Yet Leavers constantly assure us that their votes were well informed.

One of my favourite fomenting-about-Brexit social media accounts is the Road Haulage Assoc on Twitter. Of course, we all know what snowflake metropolitan elite your average trucker tends to be (not).

mummeeee and Pumpkinparent I hope everything goes well for your kids. So sad and angry for you both

Boris Johnson used 'sunlit lands' on the Andrew Marr show and 'sunlit meadows' in a speech, both prior to the referendum.

MamaLovesMango - my dad is a retired paediatric radiologist. You'll not be surprised to be told that he voted Remain It's horrific that the inevitable mismanagement of a Unicorn Brexit has led to such dangerous, if unintended, consequences And it is absolutely not the EU's fault ; this is the direct result of May's red lines choices and of course all Leave voters understood those undefined choices in advance of the referendum even though Euratom isn't part of the EU

My dad does, however, retain the hope for Scottish Independence so that we can escape this clusterfuck - not something available to the English

Thanks Clanger. That’s kind.

Sorry to see your notes, Graphista and mummeeee.

The Euratom business is annoying - it was established by a separate treaty altogether. I think it now obeys the jurisdiction of the ECJ so of course, May wanted out. Everything the ECJ does is bad in her eyes. I believe the hope now is that the UK will be able to pay to opt back in. I don't know whether this is possible - it is however the way May has worked in the past, opt out noisily and then quietly opt back in to the bits she wants.

22 Days to Brexit. Hoorah

Scotland are remainers because they rely on handouts such as free University, free prescriptions, etc. Thats why they voted to remain part of England in 2014.

If they go it alone they will have to stand on their own feet. The proposed amendment that Scotland could stay in EU after Brexit was howled down in Parliament. So now they are wetting their skirts.

They seem confident that after Brexit and they have another referendum it will be a landslide to leave UK. I am not convinced as there is no certainty that EU will accept their application to re-join the EU.

So where does that leave them? No longer part of UK (no more free University) and not in EU. How will they survive?

"Thats why they voted to remain part of England in 2014."

You didn't do much geography is school, did you?

It's the sort of mistake a true UK national is unlikely to make...

"Scotland are remainers because they rely on handouts such as free University, free prescriptions, etc. Thats why they voted to remain part of England in 2014." Ffs really? For starters Scotland is not has never been and never will be part of England (are you even British?!)

The rest of that bullshit? No they're paid for out of our (higher) taxes same as anything you get from the state, our govt has simply chosen to raise taxes and spend the budget allocated from Westminster (which is not a fucking charity donation! But from the taxes paid to Westminster) on devolved areas differently.

Also ONE of the promises made at Indy ref was...staying in the eu!

I'm living here, I can assure you there are a significant number of previous non Indy voters who are saying they'll vote for independence in another ref so it's a distinct possibility.

Many Scots feel ignored, betrayed and dismissed. Any wonder with attitudes like yours???

The Scottish referendum in 2014 was not a true attempt at independence. They wanted out, but at same time wanted to use UK Sterling as their currency. How is that independence?

Why shouldn't they use sterling? It's just as much their currency as ours.

Lots of countries use US dollars as their currency but aren't in the US.

I think the currency issue is not that big a deal when it comes to Scottish independence. Especially as they would likely join the euro at some point.

Also ONE of the promises made at Indy ref was...staying in the eu!

Not a problem. After Brexit Scotland can have another referendum on the basis of a material change since 2014. If the vote is to leave UK they can re-apply for EU membership. Big question is:

"Will EU accept Scotland's application taking into account that UK as nation voted to leave?"

"Why shouldn't they use sterling? It's just as much their currency as ours.

Lots of countries use US dollars as their currency but aren't in the US."

This! We have our own banknotes and everything!

As for scotland remaining members of the eu as a newly independent country the eu has strongly indicated they'd be in favour of this. They've even offered an option that would negate any potential hiatus, without it necessarily requiring a reapplication.

They've even offered an option that would negate any potential hiatus, without it necessarily requiring a reapplication

I will believe that when it happens. EU suggesting Scotland can remain in EU without the need to re-apply is just a stab at UK for voting to leave.

Especially as they would likely join the euro at some point

Maybe Scotland will have to adopt the Euro if they wish to remain in the EU?

Well remain voters have constantly had it thrown at them that they are over reacting etc etc and what do experts know? So no as a remainer Im not surprised and that’s why the fuck I voted remain!

The Experts forecast that the UK faced instant collapse even it just voted to leave. Osbourne indicated a 30 Billion Emergency Budget. 800,000 Jobs were meant to be lost overnight. Neither happened.

For sure UK will face difficulties for many year after Brexit as it will take time to recover and set up trade with other countries. But that is the price of future prosperity. Remember the saying "Rome was not built in a day".

The result of the 2016 was a surprise result, but nevertheless a result that has to be honoured. I seem to remember Cameron saying that it was a once in a lifetime referendum. There were no caveats that stated there would be further referendums if the vote was to leave.

Cameron also said he would trigger A50 the very next morning.

I'm glad Missing made this look this up, because, OMG, the forecasts were right (!!) By Economic Forecast standards, amazingly so.

Osborne said he would need an budget to address a £30 bn black hole in projected revenue, NOT a budget for £30bn. I think annual UK budget is about £550 bn? So a mere £30 bn budget would be amazeballs cheaper. £550 bn is linked to the cost of £4300/household figure. Recent estimates currently running at £1500/household & rising.

Treasury analysis was 800k jobs lost & 3.6% loss in revenue over 2 years after a Leave vote. ...

FullFact has a page showing that the economic growth forecasts of HM Treasury in 2016, in event of Leave vote, have been fairly accurate. In fact, the pre-Referendum forecast was slightly too optimistic; post-Leave-vote economic growth has been worse than The Experts predicted it would be.

Brexit Job Loss Index: 213,943 Jobs Lost As Of 22 Feb 2019 (and rising).

Look up the same Data for France and Germany and it worse. That's why they don't want to lose UK as UK is the third largest donor to EU

IMF 2019 Economic Forecast suggests EU as whole & FR, DE specifically, will have higher GDPpc than UK.

(Don't worry, we can start jostling for league table position with Italy instead).

I have looked at several forecasts on Google and none of them give the same numbers. So how do you know which one to believe?

The chart you have uploaded shows the GDP per capita as opposed to forecast growth which is think is a better indicator of whether or not a Country is going forwards or backwards.

UK will take a hit in the early years after Brexit for sure. Even JRM suggested it could up to 50 years before the full benefit of Brexit is felt.

Scotland are remainers because they rely on handouts such as free University, free prescriptions, etc. Thats why they voted to remain part of England in 2014.

I know we're not meant to call people "thick as fuck gammons" but it's really hard sometimes.