To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

[cantbearsed1]

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

mcnaughty

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-human-rights-act-repeal-brexit-echr-commons-parliament-conservatives-a8734886.html

And this thread, folks, is exactly why Brexit will be the shower of shite it's going to be.

Only people who have never dealt with international shipping within and outside the EU can be confident that everything will work out smoothly.

mcnaughty your own language is rather bullying - "stop crying", "stop making up stories", "this crap you spout", "buy you some worry beads..."

PestyMachtubernahme

Well we can start with the Commission President and the individual Commissioners are not directly elected by the public. So yes.

It's not them. It's the UK with their new bright and shiny hard borders.

But why ?

Having left the UK the UK government can impose any regulations or tariffs it wants, subject to WTO rules. It can also impose none.

So why would the UK government decide that having left the UK they will make life difficult for their voters? To punish us for voting the wrong way in the referendum?

We import more barley than we export. So the EU countries are going to stop trading with us?

There are different types of barley. We happen to be net exporters of malting barley. We can continue to export it after Brexit but anyone in the EU buying it will have to pay import duty on it (c£10/tonne) - which then makes it more expensive than buying grain produced in the EU or in a country with a trade agreement which gives reduced tariffs for grain exported to the EU. Once the EU reaches a quota 307,000t of barley imports the tariff increases to a completely uneconomic level - about £90/t.

So yes, we can continue to sell to the EU - it will just be more expensive for them and they may well buy the same thing cheaper elsewhere if we can't drop our prices to compete.

And of course they'll want to continue selling stuff to us and we'll want to continue to buy - it's just getting the stuff to us (and us swallowing any import duty) which is the issue.

"Well we can start with the Commission President and the individual Commissioners are not directly elected by the public"

The commission president is elected by EU parliament members, rather like you don't directly elect anyone in the cabinet here.

The commissioners are appointed by member nations.

Do we elect the Civil Service here? No?

mcnaughtyf our own PM and ministers are not directly elected by the public.

summerisgone people are going to die as a result of a no deal Brexit. It’s not an exaggeration, it’s a fact that has formally be put to the government today by The Royal College of Radiologists, a body of professions that work to keep people alive.

And then we have you. Boo hooing all over the place that your feelz have been savagely hurt by being called stupid for actively voting for it. Like I said, cry me a river. I’m sure I’ll be facing a sea of tears (some of which will be my own) when we tell one of our young people that their prognosis is terrible because we didn’t have the equipment to diagnose and treat their cancer quick enough.

@mcnaughtyf - Oh come on - do you believe that your HR rights are going to be affected? Do you really?

I know mine won't be as I'm Irish. However, every single one of those rights are a result of EU regulations and directives. You are the one who said you want to get rid of the EU laws and rules. So which is it: do you want to get rid of them or not?

Of course, you may trust your current government and all future governments to continue to implement and enforce laws to ensure workers' rights are protected. From what I've seen, I wouldn't be too confident.

The Lords are not directly elected by the public.

And strictly, the PM isn't directly elected by the public either.

Only people who have never dealt with international shipping within and outside the EU can be confident that everything will work out smoothly.
Yep, only people who haven't a clue how foreign trade works, are confident.

Having left the UK the UK government can impose any regulations or tariffs it wants, subject to WTO rules. It can also impose none.

True. And then reciprocity works.

Of course, they could have negotiated a trade agreement in the last two years...

I'm convinced that many of these hardcore Brexiteers have some kind of cognitive/learning impairment that prevents them from processing information properly and looking at the bigger picture.

I appreciate that sounds awful, but I live in an overwhelmginly pro leave area and some of the dross they come out with on social media, even after being presented with facts from professionals in their field is astonishing.

I sincerely hope they are shoved to the back of the queaue for everything should the worst happen.

BorisBogtrotter

Sigh - 4th word 'consider' - really you need to stop this rubbish. Find me an actual news article that says xyz WILL happen. There is a very good chance that the UK will improve the current legislation.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-human-rights-act-repeal-brexit-echr-commons-parliament-conservatives-a8734886.html

FishesaPlenty

Or, how about this idea - supply and demand, the farmers grow a different crop. Oh god, I bet they never thought of that one.

PestyMachtubernahme

our own PM and ministers are not directly elected by the public.

Err tell Maidenhead that - they might disagree.

Ah you misunderstand the British democratic process.

How funny.

the farmers grow a different crop

You don't know much about farming either, do you?

The EU has actually made an exception in our favour with regard to House of Lords. It is very opposed to non-elected arms of government. As to the EU institutions, not one of them is constituted without being underpinned by elections of some sort, even if it is not direct like the EU parliament, but via appointment made by member states governments, all of whom of course have been elected.

the farmers grow a different crop

How insulting to farmers. Farming particular crops takes particular knowledge and skills (and machinery). It isn't an "anyone can rock up and do it" job.

Mcnaughtyf. Maidenhead has elected May as their MP not as PM. Do you really need to have the difference pointed out to you and how the Tory party appoints its leader?

You are a very bad influence on her, and need to look long and hard at your parenting manner

Yeah, how dare I teach her that it's ok to express her feelings in a safe space and to speak the truth. A child who is worried about what Brexit will mean for her family and friends who rely on essential medication from the EU. Her classmate with half a heart, her other classmate with a rare heart condition, her grandmother reliant on prescription drugs along with me, her sister and herself. Yeah, how dare I.