To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

So, not being kicked out of Spain then as the scaremongerers have been saying

Spain from the horses mouth www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/brexit/howtoprepare/Paginas/190109socialsecurity.aspx

How I macarbrely laughed and laughed and laughed on my way to work this morning when this news was all over the radio. I think 6 cars down the traffic jam from me heard my cry of NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

This is my field and we’ve been feeling the effects in my area for ages. This is no surprise to people with a bit of intelligence and common sense behind them. I love the recommendation to ‘cut down on workloads’ and ‘prioritise by clinical need’.

Just simply stop getting cancer everybody please and if you really feel the need to, just don’t get it too bad ok?! There, that should do it

"So, not being kicked out of Spain then as the scaremongerers have been saying"

See this is the problem with leave voters, you take what can be perfectly good arguments about the diffioculties that will be faced by UK migrants to Spain and turn them your own strawmen.

No one ever said these migrants would be kicked out. It was identified that without agreements in place that things like reciprocal medical care and other issues might make life very difficult for those who live in Spain currently and that this might lead to some returning.

No one ever suggested they would be kicked out.

In the case of withdrawal without an agreement, the contingency measures the Government of Spain is working on seek to safeguard the interests of British citizens who, prior to the date on which the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union takes place, exercised their right to free movement and reside in Spain

The Spanish stuff is still being worked on. At the moment they will carry on as near normal. But they have to negotiate with our government.

God, but the offence taken by leavers when remainers state just why they think leave positions are stupid is getting boring. Here we are, weeks from our biggest ever peacetime crisis, and some people are still more concerned with how mean and nasty remainers hurt their precious feeeeeeeeeelings than the fact that we cannot be sure that such things as food supplies and medicines will be adequate.

boris there have been many posts on many threads which have said along the lines of the daily mail reading pensioners in Spain will get their comeuppence when they're kicked out so don't pretend the scaremongering hasn't been happening.
Oh, and nice use of strawman. Not seen that much recently....

@smother how else to explain to my 7 year old son that his father is going to lose his job if he doesn’t take his firm’s offer of moving us to France, forcing son to leave his school and friends?

Not Project Fear - fact. My husband has the choice of redundancy or uprooting us to the EU. Because people - like my parents - voted without using their brains. Surely though better to be considered stupid than racist? ‘Oh we didn’t mean your type of foreigner’ .....

I’m not going to sugarcoat this for him. At the very best, Leavers were gullible.

Spain is signed off, how are the other 26 going? Signed off with 26 days to go, phew www.gov.uk/government/news/british-ambassador-to-spain-welcomes-spains-royal-decree-on-brexit-contingency-measures-providing-assurances-to-citizens-and-business-alike

Without a deal we need to sort each EU nation separably, because they are all sovereign countries.

I noticed the conditional:
The package would also guarantee healthcare access to British residents in Spain after Brexit in exchange for reciprocal conditions for Spanish people in the UK,

So our Government has made a legal agreement in writing about the Spanish citizens in the UK, has it? Or is it still using them as bargaining chips.

I notice that you don't mention whether there is any agreement to keep uprating state pensions if we leave. You know, or maybe you don't, as is with the case of British state pensioners in Canada whose pensions are frozen either at the date of leaving or the date they start to draw it, if they retire after they left the UK. These are people who by virtue of being entitled to a pension will have paid their dues to the Country, and this is the Anglosphere which the Leavers have suddenly discovered a new fondness for.

But we derail - this isn't about isotopes - but it is about the 1001 details which weren't talked about when Leavers spouted about easiest deals in history.

What people from outside the UK can see that too many inside cannot is how the case for Leaving has become little more than xenophobia and nationalism. What people overseas can also see but we seem unable to is that there is a world of difference between a vote to Leave the EU in an unspecified way and a real, practical plan.

The world recognises that Brexit is self harm.

Oh, and nice use of strawman. Not seen that much recently

Not been reading Bejams posts then?

sigh, sarcasm

The comments I remember seeing about the British being kicked out of Spain, were always pointing out that that was the logical conclusion if we did not allow Spanish residents in Britain to stay here. I remember some arguing we could kick all foreigners out of Britain, and "expats" would still be allowed to stay in countries abroad. That was always unrealistic.

Elements

Do we have a volunteer to administer clipboard-free, uncertified and untested substances to themselves?

By the sound of it, I believe you already have. Why do you keep repeating yourself over and over?

sigh, so hard to tell

Cantbe on one hand it is nice to see our government managing to organise no deal deals. On the other it kind of signals we are headed for no deal by design.

Why do you keep repeating yourself over and over?

We have others happily repeating themselves over and over. "Blockading" "bullying" "Project Fear" "scaremongering" etc.

So I'll keep repeating myself over and over, too.

Sorry not sorry.

Some posters could do with a wet fish to the face to wake them up. But I'm sure brexit will do that for me when if we actually leave.

LOL - isn't amazing that the vast proportion of posters on this thread are Remoaners bitching, crying, name calling, finger pointing and making up statistics. Carry on with your scaremongering because its making such a huge impact on Brexit! Bring it on - can't wait to get shot of the scummy un-elected EU bully boys. No more EU rules and regulations.

Nothing terrible is going to happen - trade goes both ways - someone above started spouting off about barley trade - bullshit! We import more barley than we export. So the EU countries are going to stop trading with us? About as likely as the planes are going to fall out of the sky and the medicines from all those multi billion pound pharms who are going to stop trading with our quite frankly enormous NHS. Oh no NHS we dont want any of your money now you have left the club. Its all laughable. I actually reduced a Welshman to tears a couple of new years ago. Granted he was extremely pissed but he actually cried real tears and wailed "why!" "why did you vote to leave". I'm still laughing about that idiot to this day.

crying ?

Is that more sarcasm, I'm not doing well on the spotting sarcasm front today

"I'm still laughing about that idiot to this day."

We'll get to do that soon.

Everyone predicted this but kept being swept under the carpet as 'project fear'

If you couldn't see it coming and you were seriously nieve.

Apparently some idiots (those promoting leave in the first place but who have enough money to not be impacted) thought poor people dying was a price worth paying. IMHO this is just the tip of the iceberg

I'm sorry mcnaughtyf what un-elected EU bully boys do you mean?

MEPs are elected by the people.

European Parliament president – Antonio Tajani
Term: January 2017 - July 2019
Elected by: Members of the European Parliament

European Council president – Donald Tusk
Term: June 2017 - November 2019
Appointed by: national leaders (heads of state or government of EU countries).

European Commission president – Jean-Claude Juncker
Term: November 2014 - October 2019
Appointed by: national leaders (heads of state or government of EU countries), with the approval of the European Parliament.

Yes, the EU employs lots of civil servants, but so do we in the UK.

Who do you mean?