To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

[cantbearsed1]

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

Of course, the UK would need to put something in place with the EU to guarantee safe and fast drug delivery...

It's hard to believe the amount of stupid being trotted out by some on here. 10 year old daughter: "why do we have to leave the EU?"

Me: "We don't."

Dd2 "Why did god make stupid people?"

10 year olds understand better than a lot of adults it seems.

We're you happy for your DD to be speaking like that actually sparkly

Why is it OK to go round calling people stupid, or other abusive expressions like rabid, and idiotic and fucking idiots?

Why is that ok? (To those liberally abusing others opinions and contributions)

Countries like Japan have already said they won't just rollover the EU trade treaties for us
Of course they think they can get better terms from the UK on its own, with almost no trade deals
in comparison to the #2 economic bloc in the world.

The EU has about 40 FTAs covering 60-70 countries covering 635 million people, 1/3 of global GDP
plus about 800 other trade deals such as MRAs (Mutual Recognition Agreements) that enable much easier trade with other countries.

Liam Fox has only managed to create a tiny % of the new trade deals we need

• remember he said back in 2017 that we would have all the existing trade deals carried over by Brexit Day

either with economic minnows like the Faroes, where we export about 3 million annually - that's million, not billion.

or deals covering only small niche sectors of the economy, as with the India deal linked above

Brexit: UK has rolled over just £16bn out of £117bn trade deals

Remember Fox said in 2017 that he'd have all those 40 FTAs rolled over ready for Brexit Day ?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/13/brexit-uk-trade-deals-eu

Liam Fox has agreed deals with only seven of 69 countries covered by EU arrangements

Not everyone is speaking like that,but it is noticeable the difference.

I don't think its very wise to raise DC condoning statements like ...god make stupid people what arrogant behaviour

Countries like Japan have already said they won't just rollover the EU trade treaties for us
Of course they think they can get better terms from the UK on its own, with almost no trade deals
in comparison to the #2 economic bloc in the world.*
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The EU has about 40 FTAs covering 60-70 countries covering 635 million people, 1/3 of global GDP
plus about 800 other trade deals such as MRAs (Mutual Recognition Agreements) that enable much easier trade with other countries.

Brexit: UK has rolled over just £16bn out of £117bn trade deals

Remember Fox said in 2017 that he'd have all those 40 FTAs rolled over ready for Brexit Day ?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/13/brexit-uk-trade-deals-eu

Liam Fox has agreed deals with only seven of 69 countries covered by EU arrangements

Why is it OK to go round calling people stupid

There are lots of stupid people in the world. Why shouldn't she call it as she sees it.

You have an opportunity now to relay to her all the very sensible reasons why you voted to leave. I'm sure Sparkly will pass it on.

You cannot stockpile radioisotopes (used in cancer diagnosis and treatment) because they decay. They need to be promptly delivered for use. Any border delays mean that the radioisotopes will decay more on the journey, and less arrives at the destination.

There was an article about this in the British Medical Journal recently. There are plans to fly in radioisotopes by helicopter if there are significant border delays. It seems unlikely they can helicopter in the same amount that comes in by lorry.

The cost and disruption of brexit completely overshadows and perceived benefits.

I'm shocked you're shocked... Less than a month away and not a hint of a plan in place.

Motheroffourdragons
the motorway that all the lorries will be held up on is only 2 lanes. Maybe as you travel up from Dunkirk there will be a sign saying 'anything dodgy?' Right lane if Yes and left lane for No.

Funny you should say that - Isn't that near as damn it exactly what the lanes say in our airports?

I'm interested that there doesn't seem to be any mention of the Spanish plans for British residents under no deal.
One to tick off the list of terrible things which were going to happen

The areas in the country who voted for Brexit were the poorer ones.

Not only, in fact, it's probably the comfortably off Tory voting areas of the South East which swung it. Populated by the people who can afford to move their money elsewhere or afford to stockpile.

1tisILeClerc I wasn't talking the majority of shipments though my pp was specific to isotropes and there safe, tracked and scrutinised travel at the moment as opposed to after.

Poor show on here of treatment of posters.

The disdain, sarcasm, entitlement and arrogance is coming over loud and clear. It's embarrassing to watch unfold.

I remember hearing about this on radio 4 brexit programme about a year ago. The radiologist interviewed sounded worried that something this crucial was being ignored by the government. I assumed they would have the taken time to sort this situation before now. I assumed wrongly!

While it’s not helpful using words like stupid, if this had actually been mentioned pre vote would all those people still have voted leave? Because if less people are diagnosed in time with and fatality rates increase I don’t think anyone wins from this, except those who pinning their hope on disaster capitalism.

Good lord. I haven't been on Mumsnet for a while and this thread is reminding me why.

Poor show on here of treatment of posters.

This is the least of it.

If we crash out with no deal and the consequences of that start to hit there will be some very angry remainers out there. Civil unrest is inevitable if you ask me.

We don't know what will happen with British emigrants in Spain (Oh sorry, Expats). We have no idea if they will have to come back to the UK. Those in work may be OK. The pensioners may be on dodgy ground, we don't know what is happening with their healthcare or whether their state pensions will continue to be uprated.

The disdain, sarcasm, entitlement and arrogance is coming over loud and clear. It's embarrassing to watch unfold.
That's exactly what I was thinking about Bejam's posts too Smother.

"The disdain, sarcasm, entitlement and arrogance is coming over loud and clear."

Adn that's just the leaver posts.

Every time it gets uncomfortable for leavers with the flaws in their reasoning pointed out they start to claim that they have been talked down to.

There is a difference between pointing out the flaws in your points and being talked down to.

She's entitled to her opinion and in her non-political very black and white mind, if we don't have to leave, then it must be stupid to do so. I can't fault that logic. Some people are stupid. As demonstrated perfectly on that Aibu thread.

I love the way brexiteers don’t take any responsibility for this and blame the politicians for their incompetence etc. Oh the irony.

Without any hint of sarcasm a leaver points out that
It's embarrassing to watch unfold
As the world watches UK burn out with Brexit

We don't know what will happen with British emigrants in Spain (Oh sorry, Expats). We have no idea if they will have to come back to the UK. Those in work may be OK. The pensioners may be on dodgy ground, we don't know what is happening with their healthcare or whether their state pensions will continue to be uprated
yes we do know, they announced that they are putting through measures to protect the rights of British people living in Spain so that there is no disruption to them. It protects all aspects of the expats' lives

Funny you should say that - Isn't that near as damn it exactly what the lanes say in our airports?

Do we have a volunteer to administer clipboard-free, uncertified and untested substances to themselves?

Spain

The plan announced by Spanish Foreign Minister Josep Borrell would give British citizens already living in Spain until December 2020 to apply for a “foreigner identity card” which would afford them legal residency status.

The package would also guarantee healthcare access to British residents in Spain after Brexit in exchange for reciprocal conditions for Spanish people in the UK, amid fears that a no-deal Brexit would see the UK crash out of the European Health Insurance Card scheme that affords overseas coverage.

inews.co.uk/news/brexit/spain-unveils-plan-to-protect-british-citizens-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit