To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

Missed have you deliberately not looked at the figures that EU migrants put in more to our economy than they take out? Non-EU mirgrants, the ones the vote Leave has opened the doors to, not so much. We have control of those boarders, remember.

Leave vote has cost us trillions. For the foreseeable future we will be spending billions on regulation alone. Being in the EU saved us a great deal of red tape and databases that we now need to completely rebuild if we want even a semblance of normal trade in the 21st C. It won't be cheap.

Bejam I have just went to Cancer Research website and BREXIT, and at the moment their is nothing there. That suggests they are reviewing it.
Yes if you google you can find links to past articles on their site about BREXIT, but go to their actual website and there is zilch.

{Can I just point out that it's not just no deal that'll create chaos. Even if May's deal gets through it'll still be chaos, just on a smaller scale. We'll have a transition period agreed with the EU but this doesn't cover our trade with countries we currently have trade deals with via the EU. The department for exiting the EU has to agree those separately. So far they've agreed around 5 out of the 70 or so they need.}

The necessary deals and changes to legislation would happen gradually or at a specified date once the negotiations have been completed. There would be relatively little change immediately as seen by the general public. Planes will fly, food and meds will arrive etc.
The WA is a pathway to leaving in the least damaging way (given that currently the UK government still haven't a fucking clue where they are going).

“But the whole point of Brexit is to take control of our borders.”

Repeat: net migration up. That’s going well then.

Can we have a vote to keep all the nice hardworking immigrants and boot out all the xenophobic idiot plebs?

-Waits to be shot for saying the p word-

I think the right time for a Referendum would have been when Brown was ratifying the Lisbon Treaty. It may have helped reassure people about what we were signing up to. Discontent among the Euro sceptics grew resulting in the 2016 ref.

The benefits of hindsight eh?

To motheroffourdragons

You have your history wrong. The immigration floodgates were opened in 2004. The financial crisis occurred in 2007 which required austerity to correct. Even during the austerity years immigration was about 1,000 person per day.

Uncontrolled immigrated has stretched public services and forced government to allocate more to NHS and schools than warm planned. Hence less money available for farmers

I think it was the 54% cuts that did that Missed
local.gov.uk/about/news/council-funding-be-further-cut-half-over-next-two-years-lga-warns

All research shows EU immigrants bring net profit. An extra £3,700 as lonely said up thread.

Christ alive.

It's like cancelling your home insurance, setting fire to your house, then getting upset when the insurance company pixies refuse to pay out.

Do you really expect rules to be broken left, right and centre just for you?

I'm not surprised lonely, very few people know or are interested in global trading. However, they really should have done some research and asked some questions before voting Leave.

As a third country most if not all vehicles will have to be checked which puts transit time to around 15 to 20 minutes per vehicle. Considering there around 8,000 trucks a day this increased time escalates a short queue to a tailback extending 20km and taking many hours to complete. It is the detail not the basic process that is the problem

But this just takes us back to the original question.

The WTO says it doesn’t require a hard border. It would be entirely a choice that would be deliberately made by the EU.

So basically the argument is that the EU won’t agree to fast tracking essentials and will be actively choosing to create a situation where people died or starved.

And that is not the actions of a benign organisation.

I literally cannot believe people are prepared to turn a blind eye to an organisation which would choose to do that.

If, say, Lesotho had AIDS drugs blockaded by South Africa, people would be up in arms. Yet they think this is fine and reasonable behaviour? FFS.

Lonely I used that example exactly because it is part of it and the billion other details that seem create yet another minute sticking point.

Brexit...

Fevered fantasies about WWII sum up this whole sorry debacle. England just cannot move on and is now inflicting this massive act of self harm and trying to dress it up as some glorious victory. All.for.nothing.

'we survived the blitz' and other such moronic pronouncements. Forgetting that er, actually, a lot of people didn't survive the Blitz.

Smother you do know the difference between Brexit and Austerity?
Farmers are at increased risk of suicide generally but in the last week calls, because they are looking at not being able to export any produce because of Brexit/regulations/Bejams pixies, to suicide helplines have soared.

Lorry driver at UK border: "I'm carrying essentials, me!"

Customs: "In you come, straight away!"

Can we have a vote to keep all the nice hardworking immigrants and boot out all the xenophobic idiot plebs

Nice. Irony.

Do you really expect rules to be broken left, right and centre just for you?

How utterly callous of you. Honestly, this sort of argument shows just how callous Remainers are. You’re prepared to hold cancer patients lives hostage just for your own political gain.

What you’re saying is that you approve of a plan which would kill thousands of people. You’re supporting the EU in doing something that could kill thousands of people.

You’re saying rules are more important than human lives and you think their deaths are a justified punishment.

Just. No. You can dress it up anyway you like, but saying that you’re happy to watch an organisation killing cancer patients because ‘rules’ is just unbelievably callous and morally bankrupt.

You honestly believe the UK would sit back and watch people dying....

Given that they already do because of austerity, then yes. They, The Govt will try to pass the buck once again.

"The WTO says it doesn’t require a hard border. It would be entirely a choice that would be deliberately made by the EU."

You are only taking one part of that point to make your entire one, and missing out bits, confirmation bias much.

The UK would choose to enforce a hard border in order to protect its internal market. Phillip Hammond has said so.

"So basically the argument is that the EU won’t agree to fast tracking essentials and will be actively choosing to create a situation where people died or starved."

The EU isn't not agreeing to fast tracking essentials its the problems caused by the UK taking back control of its borders.

Your desire to blame the EU for something you voted for indicates desperation.

That comment related to your reply to me on the billionnor so cigarette pack type issues. Lonely

I bet cancer patients are really keen to have unchecked, uncertified substances injected into their bodies just for Leavers' political gain.