To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

To Surferjet

Correct

My nephew was supposed to have an OP yesterday.

Cancelled.

My niece is due to have one on Monday.

I'd say its 50/50 if it happens. She's been on a wait list for 18 months.

I’m very sorry they’re poorly. But given that we’re still in the EU, what has that got to do with Brexit? Are you saying that companies are already refusing to supply us? Is there any evidence of this?

We’re the 5th biggest economy in the world

As part of the EU, yes.

And actually, weren't we 4th before this shitshow rolled into town?

Do you know how many NHS staff have left since 2016???

THATS why.

EU NHS staff obv.

It certainly seems to be Bejams vision of Brexit.😂😂😂

Yeah, enjoy smugging off. You still haven’t explained who the magic pixies are that will enforce this are.

Rules and agreement don’t make themselves or enforce themselves. Can you please explain who the magic pixies are?

Nobody but the EU would be enforcing this. Their officials would be the only ones who would possibly be stopping them entering.

Cath2907

I used to be a development chemist for radiopharmaceuticals”

LA LA LA, they can’t hear you.

So, Cath97 you are directly refuting what the OP is alarmed about because of the radio show? That this specific group of people will not suffer this specific issue, or even die as a direct result as its not an issue?

So, radioactive isotopes and complex medicines (remember, many drugs such as cancer drugs are severely cytotoxic) without full traceability, chain of custody, and paperwork confirmed all in order - who's rushing to the front of the queue to get those injected into their bloodstream? Show of hands?

Even if we slip to 7th or 8th we’re still one of the biggest economies in the world.
Just so you know, there’s almost 200 countries in the world so coming in the top ten does not make us some insignificant little island.

"Saying that no humane state would stop the supply of essentials for life entering another state is not ‘wanting everything to stay the same’?"

No one is stopping it. It will just not be under the 4 freedoms.

As a third country the UK is supposed to protect its internal free market by checking at the border, this will cause delays.

As will not being part of the organisation that provides licences for the import and export of these goods, because they will need licences to be valid in order to bring them into the country.

"I want to know who will be enforcing rules which would stop essentials entering."

Told you, the UK government will be enforcing the rules if we go to WTO standards, in order to stop other countries complaining about unfair treatment.

Either that or they will just open the border to all.

Take back control.

But the Graun says research shows it’s down to long hours, not Brexit. And I thought that was the Remainers bible?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/17/nhs-staff-quit-record-numbers-work-life-balance

It helps me feel better!

I make no claims to be a saint :)

What these fuckers have done to my country and my kids futures makes angry.

Very, very, angry.

But...yeah. poor leavers and their hurt widdle feewings.

🙄

I've been called a traitor, the elite (?), told to fuck off if I dont like it.

Maybe if remainers got more angry we'd be listened to?

Shouty people seem to be running things atm.

“Even if we slip to 7th or 8th we’re still one of the biggest economies in the world.”

Phew. Well that’s alright then 😂

Rules and agreement don’t make themselves or enforce themselves.
No they don't Bejam. The UK would have to make them and enforce them.

Borisbogtrotter
I really did just request an answer, I couldn't have been clearer. So what what the answer?

That Japan gets free trade, but not all the others, so they can but UK can't?

So our main argument now is that we are such a strong country, yet will need special treatment from the EU in order to provide the essentials for our citizens. Brexit is going to be so fantastic, but will also need the EU not to apply its own rules in order that medicines and food will be available.

Some people are going to be in for a massive shock when we start negotiating with the rest of the world. Arguing that we must be given special treatment, well just because, will not be an effective negotiating strategy.

Not that there will be much to negotiate, as apparently the plan is to just open our borders to all goods. So there will be no incentive for anyone to negotiate anything with us at all.

To Surferjet

Correct. As emerging economies like China and India advance then the previous top economies will move down the list. France and Germany included.

Personally I'd rather have stayed 4th and been able to access cancer drugs, but I guess I'll be consoled by my new passport colour.
I'm not sure what this falling down the economic charts cost has actually paid for in terms of expected benefits that I've missed but I know you'll fill me in since you're HTH and all.

"The EU loved our money, which is why they didn’t want us to leave. "

The UK's net contribution made up 5 % of the entire EU budget.

We aren't even the largest net contributor, the French and Italian's contribute more once net contributions are considered we are 5th.

{I came back from France the other day and there was a hold up at the tunnel because of a strike I think. There were 22km of traffic jams all the way nearly back to Dunkirk.}

It was not a strike as such, just a demonstration of what will happen when the rules of travel to a third country are applied.
Helpfully the French did not apply the rules that will be necessary for car passengers on this occasion. 3 weeks time will be a different story.

YA a bit U to be shocked- people have been warning about the far reaching effects for some time, although to be fair to you, most warnings have been drowned out by the shouts of "Project Fear" by the ignorant.

I answered your question Smotheroffive. The UK could get a free trade deal, but it would have to be negotiated and that takes time. The EU Japan deal took 5 years of negotiations to come about. International trade deals take a long time.

Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
Surely this is medical negligence? Delaying diagnosis and treatment is going to be a death sentence for a lot of people.

I think people underestimate what it will be like to live in a third world country.