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Boys left behind at school while girls get trip

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Quickchat1 · 05/03/2019 23:42

Recently my sons class went on an educational trip to a local university. But only the girls. The boys were left behind with a cover teacher listening to music and generally doing very little. My son is GCSE year and would have benefited from a computing and science event. No it was only for the girls with no mention of anything for the boys. I understand this was a STEM event for girls only but if there was a STEM event for boys only there would be uproar! AIBU?

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Clavinova · 09/03/2019 20:35

DS1 and I were looking for university taster days at London Universities today. He's not eligible for the outreach events at UCL (ranked 4th in the UK) but I noticed that they reserve 50% of places on these events for eligible male students - because boys are currently under-represented across their outreach programmes. These events are obviously attracting disadvantaged girls but not disadvantaged boys!

Weetabixandshreddies · 09/03/2019 21:13

noblegiraffe

As a parent I have to supply all of my income information to student finance so that the maintenance loan can be worked out. We are then expected to top up the loan to at least the maximum amount (this is the expectation of the government and the reason why there is a sliding scale of loan award based on parental income) on top of that I then have to give bank statements, pay slips and a letter from my employer to the landlords agents to make sure I can stand as guarantor - if it is nothing to do with me why am I required to do all of that?

blueskiesovertheforest

My son is earning £23000 a year. No he isn't in an inner London school but he is in the South East. He lives an hour's commute from his school because rents are cheaper, but this means that he needs a car. His rent for 1 room, kitchenette and shower (in a shared house) is £800/month. He spends £50/week on petrol. £60/month car insurance. His pension contribution is ridiculous. Honestly, add it up. It leaves barely anything.

And how have I never rented? I'm 50. I got married at 23. Lived at home until I got married. Bought our house for £60 000 25 years ago. That's how. Not a massive deposit gifted by parents but £10 000 that we saved up. It was easy then, not so now.

And I don't think either of my children expect anything on a plate. They both work very hard.

To qualify for financial help the family income has to be under £25 000 but I don't think people would say that a family earning say £35 000, especially in London, is wealthy.

I just don't see the sense in encouraging certain groups of students to apply to university by taking them on visits or taster days but then ignoring the very real financial barriers that they face. No matter how hard they work, or how many part time jobs they get they'll still fail if landlords insist on a guarantor for housing for example.

N0rdicStar · 09/03/2019 21:30

Clavinova because poor white boys are falling through the gaps. Many probably don’t get to university level.

HariboV · 30/08/2019 11:01

While most of the discussions supporting the ideology of pushing girls into stem, the fact is the it is the boys who are lagging behind and failing at current education system, not girls.

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/a-level-results-day-2019-student-grades-ucas-exam-reforms-university-clearing-latest-a9059196.html

This is nothing new and has been happening through the years - see a book, why boys fail. Boys are left behind because everyone is too quick to jump into the moral ground of helping the girls etc.

Follow the trend, some coed schools are now engineered towards recruiting more girls, by altering their entry exam jetms, to include more verbal test and strip off non verbal reasoning, for example, and take it as part of proud management achievement.

Treat every child as a child, regardless of gender and race is what we need, don't need to give them extra limitation what they can or cannot do.

Actionhasmagic · 30/08/2019 11:25

YABU!!!!!!

nornironrock · 30/08/2019 11:30

TLDR, but did see on fenews.co.uk that females made up over 51% of STEM graduates in 2017.

I'm passing no comment, just presenting the raw data.

CassianAndor · 30/08/2019 11:34

ZOMBIE THREAD

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ZOMBIE THREAD

MorganKitten · 30/08/2019 16:45

YABU

Ijustwanttoretire · 30/08/2019 16:49

I did engineering where boys outnumbered girls 30:1 (ish) (I was the only girl) get over yourself.

SaskiaRembrandt · 30/08/2019 16:59

Paging Rick Grimes - Zombie Thread Alert!

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 30/08/2019 17:08

YADNBU.

All the usual arguments against positive discrimination.

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