To think being slim should be normal for most people.

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By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

How you been to TGI Fridays lately Dorset I opted for grilled Salmon. There were no plain potatoes and the veg serving was miniscule. Dh had a salad with his steak but there were no low fat dressing options.
Their starters average at 1000 calories.

I did it Dorset and while i was working nights too. But that doesnt mean i lost my empathy along with the weight.

NHS support is also hit and miss. I begged for help but was told I didn't qualify as I didn't get free prescription despite my BMI being nearly 40 at that time.

Footloose*

You might not be able to pick a worse place to eat, other than fast food, if you're trying to be healthy. TGI is notoriously fatty, salty and massive portions.

*nd btw, commuting does NOT make you fat. Probably 80% of my friends/family commute due to where we live yet none of them are overweight. You can exercise around work commitments, get off the bus a stop earlier, take the stairs instead of the escalator, brisk walk at lunchtime, take healthy food into work if you choose to.

Even being ‘away from home’ it’s far easier than ever to be healthy, most restaurants have calories specified on the menu and offer a choice of healthy options. Hotels often have gyms or pools as standard these days (or take your trainers and get outside in the evening)*

Yep those on zero hours and low wages can totally afford this. They are always getting the oppertunity to stay in hotels with a pool.

TGI? Never been Would rather spend money on my hair.

The veg definately wasn't massive. Not the salmon. Unfortunately it's dhs and dds favourite restaurant.

*take your trainers and get outside in the evening"

Totally..............except when i was overweight and losing it thats when i was at work.

I have gone right off it helena

Ive never been to Nandos either. Grilled salmon sounds nice I like fish. ive started eating oily fish as it is recommended when perimenopausal.

Should weight be ignored though? Should a dr. not tell his pt. wt. is a problem?
Just like being open about finances being open about weight might be healthier long term.

Dorset thinks everyone works 9 to 5 and gets to stay in hotels.

most restaurants have calories specified on the menu and offer a choice of healthy options

Low calories does not equal healthy. Generally, restaurant food is high in salt, trans fats and/or simple sugars, additives, preservatives, etc.

Qualifying obesity as a result of good choice/bad choice is far too simplistic.

There's no excuse for being fat. People make all sorts of claims, but those unfortunate enough to have to do without food through war or famine, don't stay fat, it's surprising how none of them have medical reasons for being fat.
I'm fat I need to lose a stone, and have already lost one, it's because I consume too much and don't exercise enough.

There's no excuse for being fat.

There are many reasons, social and personal, that contribute to someone gaining weight.

It's very naive to throw about comments like that.

You may have no excuse for being fat and dislike yourself for that, but don't project your self-loathing onto other people who could do without your negative judgement and attitude.

The Western body has obviously evolved to defy the laws of thermodynamics...

Helena. No clearly not everyone works 9-5. One of my best friends is in the police and works shifts all over the place, still manages to work out in his own time and eat healthily. My DH works away all week, he’s one of the fittest people I know despite majorly long hours, because he prioritises it.

I’m not sure how many people on zero hour contracts regularly work away from home but it doesn’t stop them going for a brisk walk in the evening which is free.

Harrysowl. Not saying it does just pointing out that there’s no excuse not to understand what you’re eating

Footloose. No, TGI would not be my choice of restaurant if I was trying to be more careful about what I ate (in fact I’ve never been) but you don’t have to have starters if you don’t want to and could opt for grilled salmon and salad with the dressing on the side. To be honest though, if I was eating out I’d prefer to eat extra well the day before/after and burn off a few more calories in the gym so I could enjoy it.

While I agree that being overweight should not be normalised, I do think there's double standards.

People say things like

Eat less
Move more
stop making excuses

To someone overweight who's having problems shifting it. And that's deemed acceptable. But saying to someone underweight and struggling to maintain a healthy weight

Eat more
Move less
Stop making excuses

Would be deemed awful, and be (rightly so) condemned as dismissive and simplistic.

@Brilliantidiot. It’s only insensitive and rude if it’s said without comment being invited. Clearly you wouldn’t walk up to someone who was overweight and say “you need to eat less, move more etc” but if it’s part of a conversation with someone saying “I need to lose/gain weight but don’t know how”, I don’t see why it would be insensitive or rude.

@brilliantidiot. I would also clarify that I’ve been clear on here that I think anyone who did say those things uninvited would be massively rude and out of order, whether the person they’re talking to is under or overweight.

Dorset, you need to appreciate that not everyone is on a level playing field, as it were, when it comes to knowledge about food and how nutrition and energy work.

Not everyone has access to a gym, either. If you're lucky enough to have the funds, transport, time and confidence to attend a gym then please don't judge those who don't.

You come across as prejudiced and narrow minded. I'm not saying you are, but simplistic views like yours quickly encourage stereotypical views that help in no way, shape or form to tackle the true issues around obesity.

harry's

it's a simple fact, eat too much get fat. Don't exercise and consume too much get fat.
No self loathing here, just realism, my love.
It's easy to get fat and harder to lose it, I'll give you that.

Not everyone has access to a gym, either. If you're lucky enough to have the funds, transport, time and confidence to attend a gym then please don't judge those who don't.

What about access to walking paths, fresh air and self motivation?

I get that everyone will be different shapes and sizes, that's perfectly normal.

But if you know you're weight is the cause of health issues, the onus is on you to make a change. Get outside, move more, make healthy choices. All free.

Em nope and I say that as a size 8.

Everyone is different, everyone's metabolism is different. Some folk just struggle not to put weight on despite not eating absolute shite.

I worked with girls who exercise and watch what they eat and they don't fall in to your size 12 bracket. I eat lots of junk and don't exercise. They are obv more fit than me but everyone would assume I'd be more fit.

@harrysowl. Have you actually read my comments? If you had you would see I haven’t simply suggested going to the gym! I have given lots of examples of free exercise...walking, getting off the bus a stop earlier, taking the stairs not the escalator

The internet is awash with nutritional advice and free healthy eating recipes. You can also get a plethora of information from your GP surgery.

Grab a couple of tins from the cupboard and use them for some weight bearing exercise in front of the TV.

I’m sorry but it just feels like it’s all too easy to keep coming up with excuses.