To think this cafe needs to rethink their message to customers?

[GunpowderGelatine]

Seen this on Facebook today from a cafe -

So we are a dog friendly cafe which is completely acceptable by health and safety as long as the dogs don’t cook your food or enter the kitchen 😡 so don’t give us a hard time if you don’t like dogs because we like dogs better than humans - note don’t give Vicky a hard time over happy dogs because Vicky will always defend the dogs

Now I have a bit of a fear of dogs and wouldn't expect to see one in a cafe and I'd be a bit pissed off if I paid good money for food and drink only to be bollocked by "Vicky" if I didn't like a dog in my face AIBU to think it's not a good message to tell your paying customers that they come second to another species?

@SoSaidTheHorse whatever suits you, post is fine.

But while we're here you do understand the difference between dogs and humans, yes? And that as children are humans we have to co-exist with them and sometimes just tolerate their imperfect behaviour, yes?

People can love their children without loving other people's children. It isn't uncommon. Also many posters on here don't have children and use MN for the plethora of topics that aren't child related.

@ShatnersWig I think you need to learn what "as a class" means.

Yes, I do understand the difference. Dogs are much cuter and aren't destroying the planet to nearly
the same extent as people and aren't constantly in the news for raping, murdering, bombing, starving and torturing other members of their species when they have the intelligence to know better.

@SoSaidTheHorse I'm aware of that but any given child I will like unless there's a very good reason not to. I certainly don't get pissed off with them being out in public or one of these people who tuts loudly every time they open their mouths. I find it alarming how many people proudly wear their "I can't stand children badges" and I think people also need to remember they were once an annoying child too

I think it's fine to be dog friendly and to warn people of that in case they don't like dogs. They aren't being very polite about it though and I wouldn't go there because I would think the owners and Vicky don't sound like nice people.

Ah the old "dogs don't rape or murder or destroy the planet" guff - because they don't have the means or capacity to!! It's like saying "I love butterflies because they don't answer back" - stop comparing the impossible and attributing it to an animal that is only physically capable of so much. Many (too many) dogs still maul newborn babies to death though so while we're making sweeping statements I'm inclined to think they're not that nice.

Also humans are fellow species, it's not normal to have such a blatant hatred of the species you're part of.

If you care so much about the planet then why do you have a dog? It's certainly not environmentally friendly to own a pet!

I think you need to learn what "as a class" means

You didn't use that phrase in the posting I quoted though.

And I disagree re cuteness - many dogs are very cute, including the ones who have had their pics posted on this thread - but give me a cute little kid any day, less smelly and hairy for a start

@ShatnersWig oh sorry I don't spited all my sentences with disclaimers I did say it in response to your PA "what ALL humans" though

*post not spited

If you care so much about the planet then why do you have a dog?

Sorry, I'm laughing so much at this I can barely type.

The most environmentally unfriendly thing you can do is procreate. Your child will cause far more damage and pollution to this planet than a dog will.

It's like when a Greenpeace chugger tried to converse with me and couldn't understand why I was accusing him of irony when he told me he had three children.

In Bristol there is a 'Cat Cafe'. Loads of rescue cats are all over the place and there is a waiting list to go in!
So, yes OP, you are being AIBU! Plenty of cafe's around. You need to find the one for 'pearl clutching'.

Yes but we're kind of built to procreate @ShatnersWig we are not built to have dogs. There is no natural instinctual urge to have a dog (although I'm sure I'll be told that I'm wrong). It's purely a societal issue - If you lived in a country that cooks dogs for dinner then you wouldn't be visiting breeders to find your next fur baby.

Sorry, I'm laughing so much at this I can barely type

I'm sure you were. Did you also spit your tea at the screen and wake the baby laughing?

Why do dog lovers take it so personally when people say they don't like dogs?! Very odd indeed. OP you now seem to be taking it quite personally when a poster says they don't like children!
I have both and I don't expect anyone to like either - they were both my choice to have - I do not need validation, both are bloody gorgeous though and they are all slightly annoying at times and that dog friendly cafe looks brilliant - will definitely drop by if I'm in the vicinity - thanks for the heads up!

No. Because I have neither children nor pets.

Not at all @LaFreaka I'm just baffled that people think taking dogs out or having dogs is even remotely the same as taking children out of having children. Comparing apples and oranges!

But yes if you like that kind of cafe (even if they do put other people's dog above you) and don't mind the owner's attitude, it really is worth going to, the cake is fab and the setting is very pretty.

@GunpowderGelatine. Lol! You really hate dogs don't you?
You'd hate our house, we have a couple of cockatiels, two bearded dragons, three rats, one corn snake, numerous giant African snails, tropical fish, two guinea pigs, chickens (outside) and two cats.
I'd have a dog, but it might like to nibble on our other pets.
So instead I get my 'doggy fix' when I visit people's houses to clean.
And yes, it involves dealing with territorial dogs when you are new to the house, but they soon calm down once they get to know you.
Fluffy cats are the worst.
Always mess up the bit I've hoovered with fluff!

I don't hate dogs, I don't hate anything, but I don't like them and would never have one because not only am I very nervous of them but I just don't see the appeal.

I love snakes and rats though and would be very happy in your house I don't have pets though as I just don't have the time to care for any properly but if I did I would get a snake

I think people also need to remember they were once an annoying child too

Yep and I bet they loved running around and shrieking and having fun as much as all children do. Don't get me wrong, there's a time and a place and children need to learn how to behave in different social situations but some people here seem to think that every bit of joy and fun and creativity should be forced out of children. Clearly there's a massive difference between a child running around and having fun and a dog off the lead causing a nuisance and potentially danger to others. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly just being provocative for effect.
I've never loved an animal anyway...not in the way that that I know love. I've had pets and cared for them, wanted the best for them but it's not love.

I don't hate dogs, but I don't like them and would never have one because not only am I very nervous of them but I just don't see the appeal

Fine. That's your preference.

Some people would replace the word "dogs" with children. And that's just as fine too.

Why can't you simply accept that - shock horror - people are different without recourse to slagging off a business and a person who thinks differently to you? If you don't like somewhere for whatever reason, you are at liberty not to go there.

I'm just baffled that people think taking dogs out or having dogs is even remotely the same as taking children out of having children
@GunpowderGelatine People love their dogs - they really, really love their dogs, they adore their dogs - you can't understand that - but you don't need to - read the words, you know what love is, it's not that complicated - they love their dogs and they wish to spend time with their dogs, their dogs make them happy...it's more fun going out with your dog - you end up engaging with other people - it breaks down social barriers - there's not a walk I go on that I don't end up chatting with someone - it makes trips out more sociable. Taking children out is fun too of course it is because you engage with your children but the children want the dog to come too because they feel the same way I do.

Shatners Obviously not. You are just splitting hairs. I don't love every living human being, child or whatever. However, as a general rule I have a soft spot for the odd human and child, yes.