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Aaron Campbell

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LordPickle · 22/02/2019 13:42

I am glad that this monster has been named publicly. The idea that he would have been protected after murdering Alesha MacPhail made me sick. His picture is all over the news now.

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sheepsheep · 23/02/2019 17:58

Personally I think there is something wrong with people who hope he is tortured to death.

It always makes me think of the public hangings and killings that once took place, and the crowds that would attend. I could never and would never, but so many people would, and would take so much pleasure in it.

Like the frontal lobe issue they come across with many sadistic killers, there's something gone wrong with the makeup of his brain. Born bad.

There are many things that can damage the frontal lobe. The environment is probably much more likely to have caused damage than genetics. Born bad is a myth.

LagunaBubbles · 23/02/2019 18:02

Born bad is a myth

Agree to disagree then. Lots of genetic evidence in personality disorders.

MarthasGinYard · 23/02/2019 18:03

He's going to cost a fortune to keep

What a waste of resources

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 23/02/2019 18:03

Utter rot,spam.youre just wildly speculating
You don’t know his brain function unless you undertook an MRI

when trying to process & understand dysfunction some will pathologise it,eg must be an illness,to explain aberrant behaviour. In fact we simply don’t always know why

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 23/02/2019 18:04

Pd does not equal born bad
PD is a spectrum,many presentations.its a misunderstood & demonised condition

LagunaBubbles · 23/02/2019 18:12

I know exactly what personality disorders are thanks Lipstick, my work these days isn't with psychopaths/sociopaths but more Cluster B disorders especially Borderline PD, and others to a lesser extent as people with them tend to present less. Of course PD doesn't mean you are born bad, nowhere have I actually said that.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/02/2019 19:20

I feel that we have a justice system and it should be followed. If that system is not fit for purpose, then it needs to be looked at and changed. But not because the general public are baying for blood.

THIS ^

I doubt that this judge has named him for a trivial reason - but I think our politicians are often in danger of flouting the laws of the land just to curry short-term favour. It is a dangerous and slippery slope.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 23/02/2019 19:31

If you know about pd why are you talking such guff Laguna

LagunaBubbles · 23/02/2019 19:39

I'm not talking "guff" as you put it Lipstick. But it's pointless arguing with you. Genetics play a big part in the development of our personalities.

Beachbooty · 23/02/2019 20:08

Haven’t read the whole thread but I think it’s a good thing he has been named and his picture shown - maybe it will serve as a deterrent to anyone else who is thinking of murdering a child.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 23/02/2019 21:21

Really?deterrent in what way?most homicide are unplanned,spontaneous acts
You’re most likely to be Murdered by your partner or family not a stranger
The Id of Campbell is not a deterrent to anyone

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 24/02/2019 07:09

He may or may not have been born “bad” but frequent strong cannabis, alcohol and extreme internet violence really didn’t help, did it?

SaturdayNext · 24/02/2019 08:32

Lord Matthews apparently warned Campbell that he may never be released. Sentencing is on 21 March when there may be more medical reports.

So much for people on this thread claiming that he'll be out before he's 30.

Fantababy · 24/02/2019 08:35

I really don't think that if someone's planning on murdering a child, the fact that they will not be named after conviction is going to be an influential factor.

YouBumder · 24/02/2019 11:44

I think he’ll get the longest punishment part that the judge can impose. Depending on what medical and other reports say of course, it’s quite difficult to see what mitigation there is in this case but there seem to be plenty of aggravating factors. Lord Matthews has previously handed down the longest punishment part in Scotland, 37 years to the World’s End murderer Angus Sinclair. I don’t know if it’ll be that high though I don’t know how much impact the mitigating factors will have. And of course there’s no guarantee he’d get out even then. If he lives that long, I see him taking his own life at some point maybe.

Butchyrestingface · 24/02/2019 11:50

Most children growing up in similar situations to Alesha do not end up in the clutches of a violent psychopath and suffer this most unspeakable death.

I would imagine most people who sell drugs to children keep their front doors locked at night.

LagunaBubbles · 24/02/2019 12:53

would imagine most people who sell drugs to children keep their front doors locked at night

You would have to live on an island like Bute to understand why people leave their doors unlocked.

Butchyrestingface · 24/02/2019 13:08

You would have to live on an island like Bute to understand why people leave their doors unlocked.

I'm not talking about the vast majority of people who live on Bute (I've been many times). I'm talking about a person who lives on Bute and is concerned in the supply of drugs to underage teenagers (among others). If anyone needed to be locking their doors at night - irrespective of where they lived - it was that person.

LagunaBubbles · 24/02/2019 13:11

Yep Butchy I get that, but it was Aleeshas Grans house I think, not her Dad's, not read anything about her supplying drugs, he probably couldn't insist door was locked without making his Mum suspicious as to why.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 24/02/2019 13:17

Well he is 16. I don’t believe in capital punishment but I do believe that someone like him should never be released. Not even when he is 60.

BejamNostalgia · 24/02/2019 13:23

I'm not sure how it benefits anyone now to know.

The judge wanted him named deliberately to prevent racial tension that was already developing. Very sensible.

That second statement is complete nonsense, the judge said nothing about racial tension.

I’ve only skim read the rest of the thread, so unsure if anyone has actually mentioned the actual reason he was named which the judge was very explicit about.

The reason he was named is because Campbell blamed Toni McClachlan, the father’s girlfriend, for Alesha’a murder and made a series of horrendous allegations against her, all of which were published alongside her name and photograph.

As the judge said, keeping his identity secret would have meant that her name and image would always be the one seen alongside reports about Alesha and in the absence of the guilty party’s identity a cloud would always have hovered over her head even though she is entirely innocent.

BejamNostalgia · 24/02/2019 13:27

concerned in the supply of drugs to underage teenagers (among others). If anyone needed to be locking their doors at night - irrespective of where they lived - it was that person.

You’re making it sound like he was Pablo Escobar. He was a very small time cannabis dealer who sold a bit of weed to his mates to pay for his own supply. It’s extremely common and has been virtually decriminalised, because even though technically illegal, the police don’t pursue it anymore.

FuerzaAreaUruguay · 24/02/2019 13:32

The flat was on the second floor of a converted house, too. You'd have to know exactly where the girl was. There was no reason to install two deadbolts on the door.

CallMeRachel · 24/02/2019 14:19

It’s extremely common and has been virtually decriminalised, because even though technically illegal, the police don’t pursue it anymore.

Not true in Scotland. Where is your information coming from?

And to the pp stating he was dealing to 'underage kids', the murderer was 16 and there is no age where cannabis becomes legal to buy.

Butchyrestingface · 24/02/2019 14:19

You’re making it sound like he was Pablo Escobar. He was a very small time cannabis dealer who sold a bit of weed to his mates to pay for his own supply.

It was established at trial he and the girlfriend had been selling to the accused and his 14 year old sister. That was admitted. He doesn't have to be in Pablo Escobar's league to be doing wrong.

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