Aaron Campbell

[LordPickle]

I am glad that this monster has been named publicly. The idea that he would have been protected after murdering Alesha MacPhail made me sick. His picture is all over the news now.

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UserUser123

Did he ever talk to you about how he found it? I always wonder when people complain about prisoners having TV or whatever, whether it really makes any difference. I mean, they're still locked up with nowhere to go for years on end. Doesn't that make it pretty bad, still?

I think that is because he was convicted on circumstantial evidence rather than forensic evidence of which they had none.

He was convicted and every one of his appeals have failed. He's guilty. David Gilroy was convicted without a body. He's a guilty fuckwit murderer, too.

@NunoGoncalves

Yes, he loved the jail life!! No responsibilities, no bills to pay, breakfast, lunch and dinner served to him every day along with all the home comforts he would have had, had he been at home!

That’s why he kept committing crimes. He was in jail on and off (for armed robberies, attempted murders, to name but a few!) Since I was 18 months till I was 26. He’s probably been back in since then but I cut all contact with him so I don’t know for sure.

So for someone to come on here and tell me prison isn’t cushy, when I’ve seen with my own eyes how cushy it can be, is bullshit.

Doesn't that make it pretty bad, still?

What's sad is that disabled people are put on UC and dying in droves and these crims have a far easier on the inside than they do. No sanctions or PIP assessments in prison.

I actually agree with user

Putting this monster in prison isn’t making him pay for his crime - as she said he’ll probably have a cushy life and all the protection under the sun. It actually must be hard for the prison officers who have to deal with this piece of scum.

I don’t know why people are getting so offended by her post, I’m sure their attitudes would be different if, god forbid, something like this happened to a loved one of theirs.

I’m sure their attitudes would be different if, god forbid, something like this happened to a loved one of theirs.

If something like this happened to someone I loved, I'd want to kill them with my own bare hands.

But obviously I wouldn't.

And, just as obviously, I'd have to defer to the justice and penal system we have. I might FEEL that I'd like them strung up/rotting in an underground cell/whatever, but that doesn't mean it should happen.

No, Nikita obviously it’s not going to happen. Because he’ll be under constant protection. Then released back into society when he’s in his late 20’s or early 30’s where he can live his life.

That poor little girl wasn’t given that privilege as that monster, not only took her life but also took her innocence and tortured her to death.

How anyone cannot want scum like this eradicated from this earth is beyond me.

Prison really isn't cushy, despite your father's experience, User. Would you really find it cushy to be banged up 16 hours a day with a couple of thugs and a shared toilet? And to live in fear that if someone doesn't like the look of you, all sorts of bodily fluids will be in your food and any day you may find boiling water and sugar thrown over you?

The husband of a friend went to prison for drink driving. He fully accepted that it was deserved, but he found the experience utterly hellish. He couldn't sleep at night because it was constantly noisy, and because he wouldn't take or smuggle drugs he found himself the constant target of threats. Even when he was shipped out to a lower security prison, he felt he constantly had to watch his back, and he hated the way his days were totally regimented. As I say, he's not asking anyone to feel sorry for him, but he is very clear that anyone who thinks prison life is great is utterly deluded.

New identities are not common. I’ve seen nothing to suggest that he’ll get one. He’d have been named in 15 months anyway as that’s when he turns 18.

I am of the view that it is clearly in the public interest for child rapists and murderers to be identified and I am glad the judge in this case agreed.

For some offenders prison is all they know and they get used to the life and it is like a community for them so I can totally understand where user is coming from their experience of somebody in jail is probably going to be different to others peoples experiences.

@SaturdayNext

For those who can handle prison life - it absolutely is cushy and you’re deluded if you think otherwise. Why do you think so many people reoffend or are institutionalised?

Aaron Campbell isn’t going to have to watch his back either, is he? He’s not going to be banged up with a couple of thugs and a shared toilet as he’ll be kept well away from other prisoners!!!!!

Prison is definitely the better option for him as he wouldn’t survive 2 minutes on the outside after what he did to that little girl.

And who do you think he'll be banged up with aged 18 sh1ts ? Rapists and paedophiles. Not sure he's going to find life as an item of prey so much fun.

As for him having 3 meals a day and an x box he’s still in prison and locked away deprived of his liberty, has no choice in how he lives his life or what he has to eat etc, no social life, no family and friends nor either probably. Having an xbox and a telly doesn’t make it a “cushy” life. As it should be of course but that’s the punishment. I don’t care about him having a so called “cushy” life inside I just care that he’s off the streets.

How anyone cannot want scum like this eradicated from this earth is beyond me.

I'd rather we keep striving to find out what creates this kind of behaviour so we have a hope of eradicating it.

@BarbarianMum

Are you serious? He’ll still be kept in protection! There’s no way they would let him in amongst other prisoners in a maximum security prison as they know he wouldn’t survive 2 minutes.

Prison is not cushy it’s mentally and environmentally brutal.

Why do you think so many people reoffend or are institutionalised?
Well that’s a whole thesis in itself ,but the following factors are accepted as contributory
Class
Educational attainment. Huge majority of prisoners gave low literacy
Social deprivation & poverty
Childhood abuse (emotional,physical,sexual).

And BME individuals are over represented in prison

I am not sure about the x box surely violent prisoners won't have access to violent games which tbh most teenage boys play .

Several points here.

It is reported today that a two-day psychological evaluation last year "highlighted no issues to suggest that he was not of sound mind when he murdered"

Lord Matthews apparently warned Campbell that he may never be released. Sentencing is on 21 March when there may be more medical reports.

The Barlinnie Special Unit closed down many decades ago; it is not an indication of what prison is like either then or now. It was an experiment. I have a friend who is a prison officer at Perth and was previously at Glenochil.

Campbell, being 16, has full legal capacity in Scots Law. The law, justice system and prison system are different in Scotland and are controlled by the Scottish Government. The UK isn't a single legal system (NI is different again) so you can't necessarily extrapolate from one to the other.

Who mentioned barlinnie special unit? It was Shotts prison that was mentioned was it not?

And he won't be transferred to an adult prison until 21, not 18.

OK, wrong Special Unit but the Bar L was the most well known. Still remains the same point - that not an example of prison life in the vast majority of experience.

Ive just read online that his mom gave an interview and said he's in solitary for his own protection and he's just watching tv and playing xbox all day so he's probably depressed.
Was that when he was on trial?
Surely to god he's not got one now he's been found guilty after all the reports about the violent games he played?

I believe his mum reported it to the Police because she thought he may have seen something that night that could help the investigation. I don't think it crossed her mind for one moment that hed done it. To all intents and purposes she was ' doting but ineffective." He was clearly running wild and his nice house was the magnet for teen parties in the area.

Some of the coverage of this has been very dubious.
Hearbreaking photos of the little girl's mother looking distraught outside court. Photos taken of Campbell's mother on the doorstep.
You tube clearly showing what I think may be his younger brother and a friend?

Clearly he knew the layout of that flat very well and must have been often, to go straight to Aeesha's room without disturbing anyone.
There were a lot of signs things weren't right with him. He told his friend he felt suicidal and his mother was drinking. The killing of the animals and the sexual assault of a girl shared on Snapchat etc

I don't understand why they are making a film about Ted Bundy starring heartthrob Zac Efran.

I don't understand why they revealed Campbell's photo - it's been online for ages anyway and everyone knew on the island so I don't think it had anything to do with refugees? All they had to do was name him. The photos etc just bring him more attention .

The measure of a liberal and humane society is how it reacts to dysfunctional behaviour
As a state we don’t torture or brutalise people who have perpetrated heinous crimes
And we no longer have death penalty or unlimited sentence tariff. Indeterminate Sentence Prisoners (ISPs) are entitled to a review after serving their minimum term

"Some people are just bad. That's just too simplistic"

If that's not the case, are you suggesting that we're all capable of this type of crime?
Never in a million years.
Like the frontal lobe issue they come across with many sadistic killers, there's something gone wrong with the makeup of his brain. Born bad.

The judge wanted him named deliberately to prevent racial tension that was already developing. Very sensible.