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Whatisthisfuckery · 19/02/2019 14:17

On Sunday my sister invited me and DS 11 up to spend a couple of days with her and her two DC. I thought me and DS could do with a change of scenery so we went yesterday morning. Train tickets cost £70 and the journey was crap, standing all the way.

Anyway we went for a meal at a local pub Before we left we popped to the toilet. My sis called her DS, also 11, into the womens’ toilets. I said to her that I didn’t think it was right that an 11 yo boy should be in the womens’ toilets. Her DS is tiny and he’s no bother but we were in a busy family pub and the toilets had people in and out all the time. She said she didn’t want her DS in the mens’ by himself because it’s not safe. I told her I still disagreed and that he’s too old and he should learn to respect female space.

When we got out her DD 9 said ‘if I saw a boy coming out of the womens’ I’d think it was weird.’ I said to my sis that she’d just heard it out of the mouth of her own DD. Sis went nuts at this. All the walk home she was shouting at me. I still wouldn’t agree with her that it’s fine to allow her 11 yo boy in the womens’ toilets so it went from I don’t agree with you because of x y and z, to ‘you just can’t accept anyone else having an opinion can you.’ I pointed out that I can, I just don’t agree. Then she went batshit, shouting right up in my face, throwing accusations and waving her arms and stamping her feet. She really lost it.

By this time my DS was like wtf? Can we leave, this is crazy. I told him to grab his kit and we went outside to get a taxi.

Sis then comes out twice to try and get us to go back in and stay and I said ‘no, I’m not putting up with that behaviour.’ Then the third time she came out and said sorry she’d lost it and could we please just stay, it was 9:30pm by then. I was about to talk to her and reconsider when she shouted,’’my two kids are in there breaking their hearts because of the way you were shouting,’ so I said ‘no, you’re still blaming me for your behaviour so no, I’m not having that.’

When she went in and we were waiting for the taxi DS said that the last time she’d come out she’d bought her DD out holding a heart shaped love cushion thing. I’ve got bad eyes so I didn’t even see.

So what I want to know is was I being unreasonable? I was so bloody angry that she couldn’t have a disagreement without having a massive toddler tantrum, but more over, that she’d shown her DD that her feelings didn’t matter and gone on to kick off in such a way that completely undermined her DD. Then she’d bought her DD out to use her as emotional blackmail to get us to stay. IMO she behaved terribly but am I over reacting.

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Maelstrop · 19/02/2019 14:25

I think you should have let it drop. Yes, you have your opinion and yes, I agree with you, it's ridiculous to bring her 11 year old ds to the female toilet, but you have queried her parenting choice. She has reacted very poorly, definitely, but to carry on needling her about it has escalated the situation, so I'd say yabu, she is too, but you should have let it drop. To leave is a massive reaction. Have you spoken to her since you left?

kitkatsky · 19/02/2019 14:25

Is this a reverse?

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Confusedbeetle · 19/02/2019 14:31

childish spat

honeylane · 19/02/2019 14:33

You both sound ridiculous and I feel sorry for your DC being exposed to all that drama

FishCanFly · 19/02/2019 14:33

silly cows both of you

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 19/02/2019 14:34

What a horrible aunt you sound....both you and your sister have gone way over the top on the matter.

CoolJule43 · 19/02/2019 14:34

kitkatsky

Maybe I am being a bit thick but can you explain what you mean by that. I've seen it in other posts but haven't been on here long so not sure what it means?

spader1987 · 19/02/2019 14:35

Totally ott from both of you.

Whocansay · 19/02/2019 14:35

Wow. You created this whole situation. Her behaviour was bad, but so was yours. I've no idea why you decided to make such a big deal out of her son going into the loos and embarrass her and her son. Yes, I think you overreacted.

Nesssie · 19/02/2019 14:35

She came out twice and apologised and you still couldn't let it drop?
YABU and very childish

Nesssie · 19/02/2019 14:36

CoolJule43 - reverse is when you post as one point of view, but you are actually the other person in the story (ie the op was actually the sister)

SherlockSays · 19/02/2019 14:37

I suggest you just don't talk to eachother from now on if you can create so much drama from a trip to the toilet. Jesus.

TC07 · 19/02/2019 14:37

@CoolJule43 is when someone posts but pretending to be the other person. In this case the real OP is the sister in this situation.

MissLanesAmericanCousin · 19/02/2019 14:38

You both sound crazy. Confused

thebear1 · 19/02/2019 14:39

You went over the top, she sounds nearly as bad but not as bad as you were. Your behavior was worse than an 11 year old using a female toilet.

CrispbuttyNo1 · 19/02/2019 14:39

You started it, and you kept stirring it up too.

It was a pub, and a small child (by your own admission a young looking 11yr old.

Now I used to run a pub and men’s toilets are not nice. A lot of fights start in them, drugs are frequently taken in them, and as a woman I would have no issue with a young boy being in the ladies toilets. The cubicles have doors, it’s not a changing room. I really don’t see an issue.

katykins85 · 19/02/2019 14:39

Christ, you seriously need to grow up by the sounds of it! How embarrassing!!

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 19/02/2019 14:43

Christ on a bike.

Felicia4 · 19/02/2019 14:43

YABU
Whatever your views are on her son being in the toilet, you should not have dragged the kids into it to try and make your point.
You both sound very reactive and were both wrong. However, she apologised, you could have accepted the apology, got the kids settled and happy, and discussed it after they had gone to bed if it's that important to you.
Was it really worth putting the kids through all that just to be in the right?

Hairyporker · 19/02/2019 14:44

You over-egged this one with the daughter bringing out a heart shaped cushion.

Whatisthisfuckery · 19/02/2019 14:45

No, I haven’t spoken to her yet. I don’t want to start another argument. I’m going to let it lie a bit before I contact her again.

I wasn’t needling her, I just refused to agree with her. I was trying to let it drop but she’s one of these people who just keeps on. I dropped back with DS to give her some space but she just kept on shouting. I can robustly disagree with someone then just drop it and talk about something else but she can’t. She started with the personal stuff, which I didn’t join in with btw, because a difference of opinion is just that. I’m not putting up with that though.

I understand that she has her way of doing things just like I do, but she is undermining her own DD, showing her that her feelings don’t matter and I can’t stomach that. I said to DM that I think she gives her DS preferential treatment and she agreed with me, and DM sees a lot more of them than I do. I’ve never even discussed it with DM before yet we’ve both noticed. There’s a lot of background of sis being treated like a doormat by men and I can see her DD growing up to believe that she should be a doormat as well.

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trooth · 19/02/2019 14:45

If you felt that strongly, you should have just brought it up later, away from the kids, calmly at home. Not in front of her children. You shouldn't have continued to stir the pot. She shouldn't have flown off the handle. I think you're both ridiculous. It should have just been a "let's agree to disagree and enjoy our family time together" situation.

trooth · 19/02/2019 14:46

That should read "you both shouldn't have continued to stir the pot"

Whatisthisfuckery · 19/02/2019 14:47

Hairyporker It was her DD with the cushion. I don’t have a DD.

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