To feel panic stricken about Brexit?

[northernlights0710]

I actually feel sick at the thought that it is only 39 days to Brexit, with no deal in place and a cliff-edge exit looming fast, the EU refusing to budge on concessions (as well they might), the Irish border problem unresolved, tens of thousands signing up to Nigel Farage's Brexit party and the Tories and Labour in crisis?

How did something that started out as a row within a faction of the Tory party come to this, a constitutional crisis? It feels like Armageddon.

Due to our red lines and that pesky international peace treaty in Ireland. May's deal is about the only one feasible, the EU moved significantly to grant it to us. Many EU countries are furious about us being offered nearly all of the benefits of the EU without any responsibility.

I don't worry about Brexit mainly because there's nothing we can do about it,

Jamie, recessions, crashes and shortages are usually caused by external factors, mismanaged finances, wars etc, brexit is self inflicted chaos which is totally avoidable.

wouldn't have happened under PR

I agree with PR but how would PR work in a vote for A or B situation like a referendum?

(also, didn't we have a referendum regarding PR some years back?)

YABVU panic is one of the most useless emotions. Chill out. Consider your options of you think it’s necessary. If you’re struggling I would suggest hopping over onto the peppers thread. Starting a stash of food has helped a lot of people feel in control.

Umm pr?

Rosie, on the contrary. These were all caused by people's actions. Most were avoidable.

Bellini
I don't think anyone welcomes chaos. However, we will get through it. As other posters have said, it is happening and we all have to live with it.

I’m not worried. Not at all. I don’t believe for a second there’s a chance we might starve or go without if we don’t stockpile. I’m just going to carry on as normal.
At the moment the only thing I’m interested is in is how it might affect my summer holiday and if I’ll be able to use my phone abroad.
Maybe if you live really rural I can understand you being worried about less stock in the shops, otherwise, I think it’s nonsense.
Mug anybody can tell me something that might actually affect my day to day life, maybe I’ll worry, but until then, life goes on.
I can’t say brexit is even on my radar, nobody I know has ever spoke about it apart from maybe a passing joke. It’s only on here it seems to come up a lot and be consuming people’s daily lives.

The answer is yes. It’s a blooming disaster. We all have to suffer because of people like Boris ( blooming waste of money bridge) Johnson who hasn’t a clue but let him gag his way out of this.

The only thing that will cause food shortages is people stockpiling food.

@DontCallMeCharlotte I think the poster saying Brexit wouldn't have happened under PR meant that there would not have been enough support for an in/out referendum.

At the 2015 election the Tories won with around 36% of the vote - one of their policies being the referendum. That meant that 64% didn't actually vote for austerity and the referendum, but that's what we got.

@Janedoe5000 , so there is some magic finite number of tins of beans that started running out months ago when a lot of people started getting extra food supplies in?
We still have a fully functioning Just in Time system that is well able to cope with fluctuating demands. Which will stop working properly with a No Deal Brexit.
The panicking will be done by people who didn't get a buffer of food supplies in and who leave it to the last minute.

In the short term, leaving the EU will be a difficult but necessary correction for the UK.

After all, we were not given a say about joining in 1992 (Maastricht) or signing away further sovereign powers in 2007 (Lisbon).

WHO OR WHAT IS PR?

badlydrawnperson

Thanks. That makes more sense.

Proportional Representation

PR is proportional representation

Thanks armchair makes sense when you say it I had parental responsibility wedged in my head its probably because the government are acting like children so easy mistake

After all, we were not given a say about joining in 1992 (Maastricht) or signing away further sovereign powers in 2007 (Lisbon).

What sovereign powers ?

If you're panicking, take charge of what you can control - so get supplies of foods you would eat anyway. Go with what bellini suggests and have a 3 day supply so that you know you will be able to feed your family. If it all goes fabulously and it's all unicorns and roses, then you'll have a couple of cheap shops because you've got food in already. If it all goes tits up, you'll be ready.

After the fuel strikes in 2000 I always make sure I have enough food, toiletries, meds etc. in to keep us going for a fortnight. When Just In Time breaks down, it breaks down fast.

more exciting news of job losses today.

well done brexiteers.

Jamie yes these things were caused by people's actions but we didn't actively vote for them, we the public didn't have a choice about the American short selling of toxic mortgages that caused the last big global financial crisis, we have however voted for and self inflicted Brexit on ourselves, big difference.

I’m not concerned, we manage to import products from the USA, China, rest of the world quite easily. That will continue post brexit.

It’s hardly like we will be on lock down. Shocking I know but there is a whole world beyond the EU.

We import from China USA and the rest of the world largely through EU trade deals which will all cease and need to be renegotiated if we leave with no deal.