To feel panic stricken about Brexit?

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I actually feel sick at the thought that it is only 39 days to Brexit, with no deal in place and a cliff-edge exit looming fast, the EU refusing to budge on concessions (as well they might), the Irish border problem unresolved, tens of thousands signing up to Nigel Farage's Brexit party and the Tories and Labour in crisis?

How did something that started out as a row within a faction of the Tory party come to this, a constitutional crisis? It feels like Armageddon.

It didn't start out as Tory in-fighting. People have wanted to leave the EU for years. I am all for a common market but the EU project has gone much further than that. Why aren't more people suspicious about a group of beaurocrats wanting centralised control?

It's not in the EU's interest to screw us over, though that's not to say they won't.

Spain's biggest exports are animal cruelty and catering to the British: their economy relies on British money entering the country.

Germany is on the verge of recession and will be made much worse in the event of a no-deal Brexit. They NEED to sell us BMWs and VWs.

What you need to remember is that 95% of each country just want to get along with every one else. It's the political elite making decisions based on how upset they are, not what's best for all countries, that will ruin things.

the EU refusing to budge on concessions

So what would you have them do differently ?

Are mortgage overpayments a possibility?

With 39 days to go?

it didn't start out as Tory in-fighting
This round did - but the previous referendum was about Labour in-fighting.

Pop quiz - who said

We must "negotiate a withdrawal from the EEC which has drained our natural resources and destroyed jobs".

Mum2jackie

Excellent post. it helps in any situation too be proactive and take steps feel more in control.

I have been stock piling loo roll but I didn't know pulp came from EU.

Also planes and ferries have been given all clear so I doubt supply links will be affected.

If you take what preparations you can for your budget and needs, you may feel less scared. As previous posters have mentioned, start with three days.

It could be a bit tricky in the Supermarkets after Brexit due to the just in time system, but remember it is in the supermarkets' best interests to get food for people to buy as that is how they make their money.

tens of thousands signing up to Nigel Farage's Brexit party

In his dreams. The 'sign up for membership' page went viral because you could sign up multiple times for free with the same email address. You'll find the majority those tens of thousands are people with names like Ivor Biggun and Phil McCracken.

I cried into my coffee last week in Pret over Brexit-despair, hope no one noticed.....dead embarrassing.

How could it be worse than Armageddon?? Maybe I’m wrong but I thought Armageddon means we’d all be dead?

It is shit though.

wouldn't have happened under PR

I agree.

I agree and support PR - but it also wouldn't have happened if so many people hadn't voted Tory.

I agree with this even more. I had a friend who blamed Brexit on Labour voters, because she said it was poor people who voted for Brexit and poor people are always Labour voters. She is no longer my friend

YABU

YANBU, but I have gone beyond panic now, into the the next stage of acceptance. But I won't be badly affected compared to some. No doubt someone like @silverysurfer will be along shortly to tell you it will all be wonderful but unable to elaborate with any substantive evidence as to why it would be so

the EU refusing to budge on concessions. So what would you have them do differently ?

That's why I wrote "as well they might"..... as in, "who can blame them?"

Because I would have thought that it's in their best interests for the UK to fare poorly as a deterrent to other member states that might have similar ideas.

The EU, not Britain, has the upper hand.

And the fact that Britain is hastily trying to strike trade deals with countries such as Japan (who, it is reported, we've offended with our 'high-handed attitude') only goes to show just how weak our position is.

Financially, I am okay - apart from being concerned about being stuck with my flat in London if the market plunges

I have some Brexiteer neighbours (in their 60s and 70s) who are adamant that Brexit is brilliant. A year ago they were insisting that house prices would not fall and were still going up in spite of Brexit.

I hate to say "I told you so...." but......

That's why I wrote "as well they might"..... as in, "who can blame them?"
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Because I would have thought that it's in their best interests for the UK to fare poorly as a deterrent to other member states that might have similar ideas.

As far as I can see they are just carrying out an administrative process. One that the UK helped draft, incidentally. I can't see there's been any stage where discretion (implying potential for malice) has been allowed.

Like Galileo. It was the UK - and only the UK - that insisted non-EU countries could not have access to the secret bits. That's not the EU being tough on the UK. That's the EU doing what the UK insisted on at the start of the project.

Because I would have thought that it's in their best interests for the UK to fare poorly as a deterrent to other member states that might have similar ideas.

Fair logic, but they also need to limit the damage to ensure EU Countries can continue to sell us as much as possible, so if they they totally shaft us (which they could) there will be an element of cutting off their nose to spite their face.

This is the real tragedy you should be panicking about OP -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47270616

My Remainer MP voted against Theresa May's deal.
So basically your MP is one of the ones buggering this up then. Wanting to rule out no deal but refusing to vote for a deal i.e. wanting to get their own way and stay in the EU despite the results of the referendum If all of Parliament had put their own egos aside at the start and got behind the PM we could have negotiated a much better deal. It's because of selfish tossers like your MP that we're stuck with a less than ideal deal and the risk of crashing out with no deal. .

we could have negotiated a much better deal

you really believe that, dont you?

Don't panic. Have enough food and hygiene stuff in to hunker down for three days. Do more if you like but don't do less. Loads and loads of great tips on MN. Do what works for you and your budget.
Three days is doable and storable and gives you a chance to assess your local situation without having to go to the shops for anything.

I am also panic stricken about it which is not helped by continually seeing posts in non Brexit topics while I am trying desperately not to read about it.

To feel panic stricken about Brexit?
I actually feel sick at the thought that it is only 39 days to Brexit

Financially, I am okay - apart from being concerned about being stuck with my flat in London if the market plunges

Okay, DGRosetti, you win

Badlydrawn - could you please be more specific about the real tragedy to which you refer? My first, glib, reaction was that anyone who can afford to buy a Porsche could probably afford to cough up another 10%. But I assume you mean that thousands of jobs will go and prices will rocket? In which case, of course I'm concerned.

I got attacked verbally (and told to go home) today for speaking another EU language on the tube and no one did anything. I am not going to go into details and derail the convo but it’s another notch on the Brexit. I’ve been here 25 years, this has happened to me twice in the last year. I’m so unbelievably heartbroken and yes, I blame the Brexit.

im so sorry that happened to you, henrys.

That's horrible. Brexit has given some people licence to be a twat.