Anyone leaving Labour party with Chuka and his mates?

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I am seriously worried. Politics across the West is an utter mess - thanks Putin, nice work - and I can't see that this will help. It will split the left vote and right-wing ideology will continue stomping its way to more power. We are asterisked all ways from hell to breakfast.

It’s a ‘listening exercise’ like he’s borrowing the verbiage of someone that spent a few years in management consultancy in the 1990s when they’d do such an exercise before announcing a programme of sackings.

As a floating voter who feels like I don't have any party I can fully support it was interesting to see yesterdays developments but I think if further MP's don't join the 7 that have left then with FPTP very little can or will change.

I was disappointed to hear today that Derek Hatton has now been allowed to rejoin the Labour party more than 30 years after he was expelled for being a member of the Militant Tendency and plunging Liverpool into £30 million of debt. He has just been on my local news saying how he has always "stayed absolutely solid when many friends and comrades have gone and joined other parties. He then refused to condemn the abuse that Luciana and other leaving members have experienced, when pushed for the third time he said he condemned abuse in all of its forms and he wouldn't have rejoined the Labour party if it had any abuse within it.

My Dad who is a lifelong Tory has just declared his support for them if they put up a candidate in his area - obviously that’s a step on from what and where they are right now but they could be real agents for change if brave enough.

well, I chucked the Tiggers a tenner today, and signed up for their info. To hear a group of people talking like adults, and expecting those listening to also be adults was very refreshing to my ears. God speed Tiggers!

Joan Ryan has become the 8th Labour MP to quit.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/exclusive-joan-ryan-in-eighth-labour-mp-to-quit-blaming-corbyn-culture-of-antisemitism-dk7zwx8w3?shareToken=af9814f5b7b23c0593524852f157d923

No surprising "Young Labour" removed their tweet about Joan Ryan quite quickly, wonder if they've revoked the access of whatever child is manning the helm at that twitter account yet.

Young Labour are appalling.

Anna Soubry, Sarah Woollaston and Heidi Allen now joined Chuka and co. Interesting.

Yes, saw that one coming. I’m getting quite excited about this. May’s majority has gone, even with the DUP’s votes. A few more from both sides and we’ll be into very interesting times indeed.

Was just thinking the same alsohuman 11 MPs with something as fraught as Brexit and this could be the tipping point where the extremist madness starts to unravel.

Anyone want to put money on David Lammy and Nick Boles being next?

Holding out for Ken Clarke crossing the floor.

Shouldn’t the SNP be releasing a statement about working with an anti Brexit party too? They claim to be anti Brexit after all.

No, never happening, he’s a Tory through and through, albeit a nice reasonable one. After all he managed to back Thatcher.

I can't find the website for this group

i suspect you're right alsohuman although it'd be a nice end to his career, which has been defined by being a european perhaps more than a tory.

Can anyone link me to their website? I can't find it.

Now we are very much in interesting times. IG now outnumber the DUP which puts the Tories in a really insecure position.

Lib Dems and Greens should immediately announce an alliance with the IG which would give them a total of 24.

Then Nicola Sturgeon should do likewise. Then you may see a few more Tories and Labours jumping ship which then says we may actually be seeing the start of something serious with genuine implications for Brexit, let alone the future of British politics.

This is getting interesting. A proper centrist party. I saw Dr Phillip Lee on the news this morning talking about TM refusing to meet him and his colleagues campaigning for a second vote but being willing to meet with Len McCluskey. That just wound me up so hearing about these Tories moving has really ramped up my interest.

totally agree shatnersWig

Oh, I found the website but see it isn't working.

This country needs a proper centrist party. I would vote for one.

Shouldn’t the SNP be releasing a statement about working with an anti Brexit party too? They claim to be anti Brexit after all.

That won't happen. The SNP, above and beyond anything, are a separatist party. They have no interest whatsoever in working with other parties for the future of the UK - they want to break up the UK.

Their website keeps crashing because of sheer volume of traffic.

This has far more potential traction than the formation of the SDP all those years ago - IF the above happens.

The danger is that with so many votes going against the Government, they may fall. Which means an election. And some of these brave/foolish/traitorous (delete as appropriate) won't get returned. So we may be in an even bigger mess because the two main parties will still be Pro-Brexit and no deal is so near around the corner.

@Silene but they want to remain in the EU. An alliance is not the same as joining forces on a permanent basis.