To not get the big deal about Michelle Obama?

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She married a bloke who became president...so why is she so revered, because she married well? I just don't get it.

We’d never have heard of her if her husband hadn’t become a U.S president

Actually we have no way of knowing that as an absolute. She was already making waves before she took a step back to focus on being FLOTUS. It’s very possible we still would have heard of her, expect maybe more for her achievements rather than as “his wife”.

Op doesn't admire Michelle Obama as much as she admires Anna Wintour. That says it all

^This. No way would I take the OPs opinions on successful women seriously. OP, you have obviously lived a pretty privileged life in a bubble to not understand how difficult it was for MO to achieve her successes and once again BY HERSELF. Read the book but I fully expect you to still "not get it" as you seem to have already made your mind up. Love how admiring a strong, black woman is considered "gushing". That chip on your shoulder doesn't look good.

It is not aggressive to start a thread about why someone who not one would have heard of if she hadn't been married to the president gets a standing ovation at the Grammy (where she wouldn't have been if her husband wasn't president). I get that she made something if herself from humble beginnings but so have many other women who don't get invited to the Grammys because they are not married to someone famous.

I get that she made something if herself from humble beginnings but so have many other women who don't get invited to the Grammys because they are not married to someone famous.

Honestly OP, are you that incapable of actually reading what people have said or is you deep rooted bitterness about Michelle Obama that strong? She didn't JUST come from humble beginnings! Good god, I give up!

Sigh - I didn't say I admired AW over MO. They have both achieved different things in different ways. AW is renowned as a hard woman and some of her personality traits are clearly difficult, but she has got to the top of her profession, raised millions for many charities including AIDS and supports young and up and coming designers, so yes I admire her for that. My point was - and has always been - that the levels of adulation MO seems to receive are more than that of other women who have made it on their own merits. End of.

I give up too ...

So your jealous becuase you didn’t get an invite to the Grammys?

Opponents = Mitt Romney & John Mccain (then sen. for AZ).

Romney is former gov of MA & now Sen for UT.
McCain died not long back, he asked Barak & GWB to deliver his eulogies (& #45 to stay away).
McCain's 2nd wife is called Cindy, pretty, former model?, much younger.
HIs DD is Meghan (TV presenter on The View & never-Trumper).
JM also has an adopted daughter (different ethnicity) & a few sons.
1st wife lost 4" height after terrible accident; she was a civil servant, favourite of the Reagans, especially Nancy Reagan, who never forgave JM for his many extra-marital affairs.
Yes I know all that off top of my head.

Yeah MO became famous via her position but after that she became adored because of how she did her duties. First ladies often lead high profile campaigns & MO did TV cameos that got attention. Along with her humility & party speeches. So that's why folk gush. She grew into the role fantastically.

Laura Bush kept a low profile & Eleanor Roosevelt leveraged the role for everything she could to change world for better (had significant roles with UN). Like BO said, the official roles reveal who you are.

but she has got to the top of her profession

Slightly easier from her beginnings though, no?

Absolutely she could be described as an admirable woman, but unlike MO she hasn’t had the further difficulties of race and low income to contend with.

lil - so you know that comment makes more sense than any of the previous, I understand that

Jaques I agree with your point too

I have been to the Grammys it was vet king and quite dull

*very long

So your jealous because you didn’t get an invite to the Grammys?

This is hilarious! Obviously, the real reason for OPs anger towards MO

No anger Peng just a bit of confusion

that the levels of adulation MO seems to receive are more than that of other women who have made it on their own merits.

Maybe because she also comes across as highly likeable and approachable.
She hasn't had to make tough decisions in a public role.

I suspect that if she had taken up office, she'd be seen differently (at least more harshly) and would have displeased more people. But she'd have been seen as professional.

It still remains that she has an attractive personality. Obama is great but he can come across as too intelectual and smug. Not Michelle. Which may make some people think she's less capable or worthy of admiration too.

It's hard to please everyone.

Maybe the OP IS Anna Wintour.

No anger Peng just a bit of confusion

Well its been explained to you by various PPs in the last 14 pages of this thread and yet you still don't "get it". To me it seems like you really don't want to thus equating to some kind of resentment towards her success.

Lweji yes it's me - can't talk anymore of to sign of August edition

*off

I think it’s a bit daft to stigmatise the op as jealous - which response reveals a certain degree of ingrained sexism. Women who criticise others are always assumed to be jealous of their looks, wealth, husbands.
The point is not that Michelle is only prominent because of her husband. That’s true but not her fault. The question is what has she done with her prominence having gained it. I stand by my view that what she has done with it is admirable and I respect her. The Grammys have celebrated much less worthwhile people!

OP,
How do you square fact that so many people you probably do admire are there because of the opportunities afforded by their parents? Anna Wintour has been mentioned... she went to a very expensive London private girls school.

‘Stigmatise her as jealous’ i don't think anyone has done that. If anything she’s done it to herself by starting this thread.

The definition of jealousy: feeling or showing an envious resentment of someone or their achievements, possessions, or perceived advantages.

If you ask me, starting this ‘daft’ thread, without doing any research is the sum total of the above definition. Women need to get a clue, she has starting a thread bashing anither women, yet me calling her jelous is sexist?!!!!

and she's white.

I think the OP is one of those irksome 'colourblind' people, which as far as I can tell just simply means they're going to ignore racism.

@Jangirl2018

It’s a human being bashing another human being

You see it as a woman bashing a woman

Mmmmbrekkie

I wasn't talking to you. Hence your reply makes no sense.