Who was U here? Not my neighbour.

[AuntieCJ]

On my way back down the lane earlier I found my neighbour of a few doors up involved in a nasty sounding argument with a man. She has a large front garden with high fences and gates. A man had been trying to push a large barking dog into her garden. He'd opened the gate to do so. She'd seen him and rushed out to see what he was doing.

The dog had been running up to people and barking and running into the road, narrowly avoiding being run over. The man had caught it by the collar and was trying to put it into neighbour's garden. It's not her dog and she didn't want it in her garden, it was very big and barky and I don't blame her.

The man tried to insist saying the dog could cause an accident or attack someone because it was panicking. She said to take it to his own house and keep it there. He said his garden wasn't secure like hers. She said that if he left the dog there she'd let it out the moment he'd gone. He doesn't live near us but had stopped his car to try to help and didn't want to put it in his car.

All the time he was trying to push the gate and force the dog into the garden. By this time it was snarling and growling and it tried to bite him. He let it go and it ran off. Imagine if it had been trapped in neighbour's garden in that mood. It was U of him to try to do that, wasn't it? If I'd have found that big angry dog in my garden I'd have been frightened as was my neighbour.

He sounds like he was taking all the credit and leaving all the work to your neighbour. He didn’t know what was in the garden - I’d have been really angry too. If you can’t be bothered to deal with a situation properly don’t do a half arsed job

At least he did act.

You consider dumping an aggressive dog insomeone's garden and leaving an acceptable action? That's what he was trying to do. He wasn't restraining the dog until the warden arrived or anything remotely reasonable. He had no idea if the garden was secure giventhere was access to the rear. He had no idea what was round the back of the house or wh e the back was open to the house. He didn't want the dog in his property (car) so was dumping the problem on someone else, someone who was unable to deal with it. He was a twat.

If you are going to "act" you do the job properly, you don't dump it on someone else without talking to them.

If it was in her garden she simply call the rspca to come get it.
Hardly rocket science*

If you see an agressive dog running about you simply call the RSPCA to come get it. You don't dump it in a stranger's garden.

Hardly rocket science.

Yes, maybe it would mean she couldn't leave her house until the dog was taken away, but better that than for example, a child being attacked and ending up with life altering injuries

That's just absurd. OP's neighbour might have been stuck in her house for hours. What if she had an appointment? What if she had to collect a child from school or nursery?

It's not even as if the only alternatives were that or the dog staying free. The man could have put the dog in his car and taken it to the police station, or used the neighbour's offer of a belt to tie the dog up with.

If l was not a dog lover l would have just not gone out in the garden, put out water and some food and left it alone. After all it was a dog not a bear!

Do you regularly just happen to have food suitable for dogs in your house, dragongirl? I don't, and I suspect an elderly lady living on her own doesn't either. Someone in that situation would be mad to try to engage with an aggressive, snarling dog anyway.

I am shocked by some of the heartless replies here, the dog is probably someones beloved pet. Now it is still lost

How do you know? For all you know it ran home, or got picked up by a dog warden.

The poor dog must have been frightened. Someone needed to think of helping it. Shame on all of you.

I'm sure she wasn't in imminent danger, and it wouldn't be the end of the world to not get out of her house for a couple of hours.

What makes you so sure of that, blueluce? Do you have personal knowledge of her timetable? Suppose, for instance, she had a medical appointment and wouldn't get another for weeks if she missed it? Suppose she had to pick up a child from school? Suppose she was going to visit another friend who relied on her to run errands or for company?

Bluemini, does it occur to you that the neighbour may have been frightened? Doesn't that matter?

I'm a bit fed up with the "poor dog" posts and no sympathy for an elderly woman who felt threatened by a large, snarling dog.

What is wrong with you people? Shame on you for caring more about a growling dog with big teeth than a small, frightened elderly human.

@crazycatgal so you would have let it out to be potentially hit by a car? Big..... slow...... clap.......... for you

Seems reasonable.

You should probably re-think whether you are the type of person that should own a dog, or any pet, if you couldn't give a hoot about the wellbeing of animals.

The poor dog must have been frightened. Someone needed to think of helping it. Shame on all of you.

Yes, shame on anyone who didn't want to be trapped in their own house, or out of their own house, or get bitten (the OP has said the dog tried to bite the man) trying to get in or out, have their children or pets put at risk from an unknown dog that was stressed and showing aggression, trapped in their garden.
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I get the man was trying to help the dog but how can just shoving it in someone's garden without their knowledge or permission be ok? He had no way of knowing what repercussions there would be!
I have a small elderly dog, if someone did this to me there's no way my dog could defend herself against a large breed, and the younger dog is aggressive herself. I'd have been faced with a fight I'd have had to split up and likely injured dogs needing a vet.
Phoning the police and/or council would have been better.

I'm not really buying the "frightened elderly woman" story either.

I'm not really buying the "frightened elderly woman" story either.

He was completely unreasonable.

Do we know if the dog is okay?

Tbh while I care about animals it’s really drivers I’m caring more about - one guy in a fender bender? Could also be a multiple car pile up with families in every one. Dog in garden is more of a known risk - don’t go into garden till it’s gone. Dog on road is a massive risk, appears suddenly around the corner and you swerve - possibly into the older lady’s garden!

You should probably re-think whether you are the type of person that should own a dog, or any pet, if you couldn't give a hoot about the wellbeing of animals.

What do you need to give a re-think about having if you couldn't give a hoot about the wellbeing of a human?

He could have killed someone. Imagine if there was a child alone in that unsupervised secure garden (something one can expect really). He was obviously trying to do the right thing but not that hard. he was bloody stupid and lacked the requisite respect for OPs property that the law demands. If he was sooo good then he could have put it in his car and waited for the warden but he would rather someone else had to deal with the inconvenience while he got to pay himself on the back.

Surely the issue is less ‘poor dog’ and more ‘protection of the public and possibly especially vulnerable people such as small children from dangerous dog’.

The man seemed to be getting involved to do something to protect the general public. The neighbour clearly wasn’t willing to put herself out for the public good. She just didn’t want him in her garden even though that meant he would be contained until he could be removed. If everyone takes the ‘not my problem’ approach then the dangerous dog is free to roam and potentially attack. One party was clearly acting selflessly and the other selfishly.

Yes it’s the dog owner’s responsibility, but seeing as they were nowhere to be seen it isn’t really a helpful designation. If the dog attacks a child while numerous members of the public stand around and do nothing then everyone can mutter about blaming the owner. Great.

The neighbour is entitled to refuse and the man shouldn’t have pushed it, but I know who I have more respect for in this story.

so you would have let it out to be potentially hit by a car? Big..... slow...... clap.......... for you

Seems reasonable.

Do you not think the offer of a belt to tie the dog up with until a dog warden or the police came to get it would have been a better option than throwing an aggressive dog into an old ladies garden? Or putting the dog into the man boot and him driving it to a Police Station? These seem like much better and safer solutions to me.

God this is so sad. That poor dogs I hope it came to no harm. It was clearly scared. I, like many others, would have kept it in my garden and called the rscpa.

I guess this is the same thing as seeing someone being abused and turning a blind eye. The man did well to capture the dog, and trying to put it in thr nearest secure place. It's batshit to suggest he put it in his car or used a belt as a lead.

I'm shocked the lady wouldn't sacrifice some of her time to help the animal. 😔

It's batshit to suggest he put it in his car or used a belt as a lead.

What's "batshit" about it?

How can you not know what's batshit aboutnit? How can you secure a large aggressive dog in a car? It could hurt itself. What was he supposed to do with it tied to a lead? Walk it to the nearest rescue centre?

His solution to secure the dog in a contained outside space was rhe best.

I wouldn't have let him put the dog in my garden either. How dare he use her property like that

I'm shocked the lady wouldn't sacrifice some of her time to help the animal.

She offered a belt as a lead. The man just wanted to dumpthe dog in her garden and leave. She was frightened and didn't want to be trapped inside her house for an indefinite period by a snarling dog twice her size. What's so hard to understand? I've already said we live in a village, the dog warden is based in the town miles away. As are the police. Anyone who thinks the RSPCA respond to requests for help in such situations has obviously never asked them for help. They will say call the dog warden as it isn't injured.

I'll be going up to the post office later so I may find out what happened, they know everything that goes on in our patch.

Oh give over with the elderly lady being trapped for an indefinite period. It clearly wouldn't have been there for days, and she wasn't so elderly she couldn't go out and cause merry hell,

She could easily have let the dog into her garden and called to have the dog rescued.

How can you not know what's batshit aboutnit? How can you secure a large aggressive dog in a car? It could hurt itself. What was he supposed to do with it tied to a lead? Walk it to the nearest rescue centre?

It could hurt itself in the boot of a car ? Ok then..........

Regarding tying it with the belt, no I would say he should tie it to something, and phone the police or dog warden and ask them to collect the dog. Keep the dog and anyone else safe but letting the Police/dog warden know that it's tied to a post so it need to be collected asap

HTH sugar plum