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Adult supplied my 14yr old with alcohol

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tigwig76 · 04/02/2019 21:37

My dd has just told me that at the weekend, when having a sleepover with her also 14yr old friend, the dad of this friend bought them 'loads of alcohol'. This translates to a can of pink gin mixer, lager with tequila in it and a VK alcopop. 1 of each per person. All without my knowledge or consent. I have in recent months allowed her to have 1 cocktail whilst with me on holiday but that's it. I've never met the parents and was a bit uncomfortable about the sleepover anyway but can't exactly stop it at 14.
I'm really quite annoyed. Luckily she only drank half of a can and ended up coming home but it could have been so different. Aibu to feel pissed off about this?

OP posts:
Graphista · 05/02/2019 15:22

"The reason I said I can't stop a sleepover is not because I physically can't but I think it would be embarrassing for a nearly 15yr old to not have permission to do so." Frankly that's not a good enough reason. Her safety comes way above her street cred! Or yours!

Embarrassing teens is par for the course of PARENTING teens. Decent parents will have absolutely no problem with you wanting to at least talk to them before your child stays over at theirs, get details like address etc.

My dd went on holiday with one family and the dads brother was also going with his dd and it was a caravan holiday. I asked about meeting him before I agreed to this, not only were the parents & uncle absolutely fine with this, it turned out his job was actually as a care worker in a group home for kids in the care system so he'd been background checked for his job (and yes I know that's no guarantee but it does make potential issues less likely). I also met him for a coffee and he was a lovely guy. Dd went on the holiday and had a great time. But it wouldn't have happened without me getting that reassurance.

"It's impossible to meet other parents" it's really NOT - see example above & others given by pps. YOU have to make the effort.

"They don't have parents evenings." If you're in the uk that's rubbish! And even most outside uk schools have these or similar events where parents attend school and can easily meet other parents. And again even if they don't YOU make the effort to get to know the people that are spending time with, influencing and have access to your CHILD.

"The thing that most worries me is that the OP is a childminder" IF that's true I find that really shocking because childminders are on the other end of safeguarding checks and most councils (I thought all) expect them to undertake safeguarding training before they can be registered (I'm a former childminder myself. I wouldn't trust one with such a lax attitude to safety of children).

"Does everyone text the parents and ask for their full address in this situation?" Nope! I wouldn't rely on only a text!! If I didn't ALREADY know the parents very well so that I KNEW I was texting an adult - and
Tbh by the time you know them that well you'll probably know their address anyway! Phone call at the very least.

Minis - times have changed in terms of people's awareness of how grooming works and how prevalent it is. We're also more aware of the damage alcohol does to young bodies.

I'm 46 I remember some of my friends parents being of the more permissive type - these friends were also the ones more vulnerable to older "boyfriends" with ill intentions/abusive personalities and who now they're older with teens of their own are HIGHLY critical of how they WEREN'T parented.

"This is ridiculous. A dad goes into his 15 year old daughters room and tries to be the cool parent by letting them have a drink (which he's no doubt been nagged for) and now he's some kind of nonce?

Have a word with yourselves"

really? How do you THINK grooming works? Do you know the effects of alcohol on such young bodies? The dangers?

At the very least even if he's not a "nonce" he's putting himself in a VERY Vulnerable position of possible accusations!

AT BEST the man's an irresponsible idiot - AT BEST!

At worst he is trying to groom OP's dd.

I certainly wouldn't want my dd anywhere near this guy even now!! (She's 18 soon).

ShatnersWig · 05/02/2019 15:58

"The thing that most worries me is that the OP is a childminder" IF that's true I find that really shocking

No IF about it @Graphista, unless the OP has lied about her profession on several other threads. Glad I'm not the only one who was a bit shocked at this and surprised others weren't once I raised it.

tigwig76 · 05/02/2019 16:23

Yes I am a childminder and have been for years. This has absolutely no impact on how I care for my mindees.
In regard to I'm talking rubbish about no parents evenings. I'm glad you are psychic enough to know my dd"s school. They send out regular reports but only ask to see parents of students who need additional support.

OP posts:
BrilliantDarling · 05/02/2019 16:31

*ShatnersWig

"The thing that most worries me is that the OP is a childminder" IF that's true I find that really shocking

No IF about it @Graphista, unless the OP has lied about her profession on several other threads. Glad I'm not the only one who was a bit shocked at this and surprised others weren't once I raised it.*

What has the Ops job got to do with it? Confused

Mmmhmmm · 05/02/2019 16:35

I wouldn't want an adult man giving my 14 year old daughter alcohol, I don't care who's Dad he is. Angry

ShatnersWig · 05/02/2019 16:35

@Brilliant If you read what I said earlier and what @Graphista has it would be obvious, although obviously its an opinion and not a fact.

tigwig76 · 05/02/2019 17:09

So I spoke to dd. Her friend (and she went along with it) asked the dad to get the booze. He got it from the shop and said you better take it upstairs so your mum doesn't see. I'm not exactly happy about it but it doesn't sound sinister to me just that hes an idiot.

OP posts:
Graphista · 05/02/2019 18:51

I said "if" for several reason

1 no offence shatnerswig but I wasn't assuming you had correctly looked up the username and accepting one post by a pp that op is a childminder. There's a lot of very similar usernames on mn it can get confusing.

2 I have no way of knowing for sure even if the op themselves claims they're a childminder. It's a relatively anon forum where people can claim to be any number of things. I'm an ex nurse also and I've seen the most ridiculous "medical advice" given by posters claiming to be medically trained.

3 even if op is working as a childminder not all operate correctly/legally, even those that do aren't necessarily good at the job. Numerous threads on here by posters who've THOUGHT they've got a good one who's then done something shockingly stupid/dangerous

4 It DOES surprise me that someone working in this area wouldn't at least be aware of safeguarding guidelines and the potential harm that can come to children. Ime those that work in this type of area tend to be MORE cautious as they've either read case studies or dealt with abuse survivors

"In regard to I'm talking rubbish about no parents evenings. I'm glad you are psychic enough to know my dd"s school. They send out regular reports but only ask to see parents of students who need additional support." I've attended 6 different schools and a college myself as I was army brat so all over uk & 1 overseas, dd has attended 3 herself. Every one had parents evenings. The 300+ friends I have on Facebook who are people I know personally and are mostly parents themselves post about their kids parents evenings. The 20+ teachers I know also post, talk to me about the parents evenings they host/attend. So yea, I find it hard to believe they NEVER host parents evenings or social events or awards ceremonies or plays/concerts... At which you could meet your dds friends families. Nor is that a sufficient excuse for not arranging something yourself.

I'm glad idiocy rather than sinister motives at play. I'd still be seriously unimpressed and if I were in your place my dd would not only not be sleeping over there again, I'd be encouraging other friendships than this one.

BusyMum47 · 05/02/2019 21:39

I'd be livid - that's not just unacceptable - it sounds downright weird & creepy. Report him. Having said that, not knowing the parents at all or even exactly where they live, why would you let your young child spend the night in their care??

shpoot · 06/02/2019 11:05

@BusyMum47 report him to who? For what?

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