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smcbride · 31/01/2019 07:42

Warwick Police haven't prosecuted anyone for these vile rape threats and Warwick uni are now letting (some of?) the perpetrators back in to study at the same university alongside those they discussed threatening to rape.

Would you be happy sending your child here?

Warwick students suspended over rape threats allowed to return earlyly*_

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Doyoumind · 31/01/2019 09:29

We don't know the exact terms of their return. It's very likely everything possible will be done to ensure they never come into contact with the women involved.

ReverseGiraffe · 31/01/2019 09:29

I graduated from Warwick in 2017. I am so angry about this, ashamed of my university's handling of this, and shocked it has been effectively brushed under the carpet.

That being said, there is a horrible culture of 20-something year old men talking like this. It happened at my first university. It happened at my sixth form. My ex boyfriend and his friends spoke like this. This is just an example of the wider problem of young men feeling entitled to these views. And now we're seeing there are no real repercussions.

EmmaStone · 31/01/2019 09:29

I'm Warwick alumnus, and I'm absolutely disgusted that they've caved so soon on this. I think they've made an enormous mistake, and now a whole generation of Warwick graduates will be tainted by the memory of - "oh, were you at Warwick when those men had that chat". It was misogynistic when I was there, and apparently nothing has changed, or indeed, it's worsened.

User758172 · 31/01/2019 09:30

So if the women involved feel unable to continue their studies because they don't feel safe, that's just collateral damage as long as the poor menz don't miss out?

That’s on the women, I’m afraid. Life is tough. You have to be tough. You can’t always be safe and protected and cocooned. Words can only hurt you if you allow them to, if you give them power. These women shouldn’t be cowed in the face of it. No physical harm has come to them.

Lycanthropology · 31/01/2019 09:30

Also, as has been stated repeatedly, you don’t have to break the law to have action taken against you.

Nanny0gg · 31/01/2019 09:32

@MrsAriadneOliver

How long should these boys be banned for - for life? Should their lives be ruined over this? It’s not a question of prioritising them. They’ve already had a ban, a year to reflect on their actions, and hopefully return as improved human beings.

They should have been expelled not 'banned. They also used hate speech (So prosecuted too?)

Their lives don't need to be ruined. They can still get jobs. Just ones that don't need degrees.

Doyoumind · 31/01/2019 09:32

They have had action taken against them.

JacquesHammer · 31/01/2019 09:32

Being a scumbag isn’t illegal

They didn’t physically harm anyone

My suggestion to students at Warwick would be every time one of these men walks into the room, point them out, discuss their failings in front of them, refuse to sit next to them.

I mean you wouldn't be physically harming them, so presumably you'd be ok with this.

I cannot imagine having the sense of fucking male entitlement than means not only do they think it is acceptable to talk like this, but that they can also return to their studies with no consequences.

Nanny0gg · 31/01/2019 09:32

Insufficient action

Lycanthropology · 31/01/2019 09:33

That’s on the women, I’m afraid. Life is tough

WTF? Threats of rape, sexism, misogyny and racism are things we just have to tolerate because life is tough?

Jesus fucking Christ

JacquesHammer · 31/01/2019 09:33

Life is tough

Yet it isn't tough for the perpetrators? They can be cocooned and return to their studies as though nothing has happened...?

ReverseGiraffe · 31/01/2019 09:34

No, they haven't PHYSICALLY harmed anyone (as far as we know) but at least one of the women named in the chats is a survivor of sexual assault. So she has probably experienced some significant trauma from this.

Nanny0gg · 31/01/2019 09:35

That’s on the women, I’m afraid. Life is tough. You have to be tough. You can’t always be safe and protected and cocooned. Words can only hurt you if you allow them to, if you give them power. These women shouldn’t be cowed in the face of it. No physical harm has come to them.

So mental harm and distress doesn't count??

Grimbles · 31/01/2019 09:35

@MrsAriadneOliver. You condone rape, sexual violence and abuse

Grimbles · 31/01/2019 09:36

In fact you actively support it.

Lycanthropology · 31/01/2019 09:36

Grimbles you forgot racism and anti Semitic which also featured in those chats.

Bluestitch · 31/01/2019 09:37

And the disappointing sex with a child.

Doyoumind · 31/01/2019 09:37

Everyone who knows them, including all their families and friends, knows what they have done. They have gone through several disciplinary stages and risked never being able to ever complete their studies anywhere. I don't think they will have had a particularly easy time of it recently. I think the trauma of it will probably stay with them forever. I can't imagine going through a disciplinary process like that myself and coming out unscathed. Their futures are in jeopardy.

Again, I am not condoning anything but they have been stupid young men who haven't committed a crime.

GCAcademic · 31/01/2019 09:37

That being said, there is a horrible culture of 20-something year old men talking like this. It happened at my first university.

Sadly, I think this is true. And I suspect a lot of the minimising on this thread is coming from mothers who fear their own sons getting caught out and facing consequences for similar behaviour.

Grimbles · 31/01/2019 09:38

Oh yes, and the boasts of underage sex. All supported by @MrsAriadneOliver

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 31/01/2019 09:38

I wonder if it was forwarded to the police that one of them seems to have sexually engaged with a Y10 student.

Bluestitch · 31/01/2019 09:39

And I suspect a lot of the minimising on this thread is coming from mothers who fear their own sons getting caught out and facing consequences for similar behaviour

I think this is spot on sadly.

JacquesHammer · 31/01/2019 09:40

I don't think they will have had a particularly easy time of it recently. I think the trauma of it will probably stay with them forever

And the woman who they threatened? Have they had an easy time? What about their trauma?

Their futures are in jeopardy

More fool them. Any reasonable male wouldn't think this sort of conversation was amusing or appropriate. They "suffering" is ALL of their own making and they deserve no sympathy.

Fazackerley · 31/01/2019 09:40

grimbles calm down.

Honestly if we can't discuss things like this there's no hope for any of us.

Accusing posters of actively supporting rape is not on.

Would you say this in RL?

divadee · 31/01/2019 09:40

So if I say in a private message to someone "I'm going to blow up work" Just for the bants and then carry on to talk about it in great detail and change my name to xxxbomber or something should I be surprised when the anti terrorism police turn up and I can claim the "bantz" defence? Of course not.

Warwick should be shitting themselves right now. I hope the numbers fall and fall as applicants withdraw from applications.