In being sick of the way women are endlessly objectfied and treated like pieces of meat?

[Janos]

Rant alert!

I'm just so f'ing sick of it (pardon my French).

It's everywhere, on television, when you walk into the newsagents, advertising billboards, shops - AAARGHH!!

I don't remember it being like this when I was younger. Perhaps I was just more innocent then or maybe its got worse. Depressing to think what view of women this encourages, and that my DS will grow up seeing this stuff as a matter of course.

sigh

Am I just a raddled old prude or what?

If all women were natural, we maybe would be happier with what we have? It just seems that people accept cosmetic surgery so readily when if you really think about what it is....cutting and placing foreign objects in the body or stretching ones face...I can see it can help people feel better (esp in deformity), but alot of the time women are made to feel abnormal for something that is actually normal; like aging or sagging breasts.

Storming posts, M&J and OrmIrian.

YANBU I am also sick of seeing female singers dress like crap to sell records.

Yes, excellent posts M&J and OrmIrian. ITA

I was looking at the Object site yesterday and would urge all people on here who haven't seen it to go and take a look.

Thanks for sharing the object site. I will pass it on.

"The 25-year-old singer wore a short gingham shirt-dress and a pair of high white 'stripper' style shoes"

The above is part of an article describing Natasha Bedingfield. Who wrote this - a female journalist from the Daily Mail (who ought to face the sack for such a poor article).

Its not just dear ol Natasha (who went onto proudly say in said article that she went knickerless at the Princes Concert for Diana); its the women in journalism who also write about them who are at fault as well.

I think the overall sexualisation of society has become more widespread and mainstream in recent times.

BTW was I the only one who thought that Kylie in her hotpants made her just look cheap instead of sexually alluring (which was I presume the intention)?.

nevermind all that! lily allens boyfriend is 'seb chew'? look at pic at bottom of daily mail article!!!

omg check out this "daily mail article"

about scarlett Johansson... is this really 'news'? women are definately guilty of making other women feel like shit.. this is outrageous... ffsss

ha ha
a mumsnet special award to margo&jerry for the phrase "witless fanny waving" surely?

[proud smiley]

Wow thanks everyone for some very inteersting and thought provoking posts. Had really begun to feel like I was the only one bothered by this!

I've just had a look at that Object site. Some of the 'examples' they had picked out from the lad mags were really awful.

I'd forgotten how vile these magazines can be.

It's not the men looking at naked women that bothers me, it's the attitude behind them which upsets me.

Brings back a lot of unpleasant memories from an old relationship....yuk. Enough said.

I know I always point people towards monkeytrousers' brilliant post on these threads, but I think it stands up to repeat readings. Janos, in case it doesn't come up in the right place, it's her post of Sat 15-Apr-06 18:05:36

Again, discusson about the 'objectification' of women always comes down to sexuality and sexual choice, when women are objectified as the carers, the cleaners, the bottom-wipers and washer-uppers who don't needto get paid for it because we do it out of natural, imaginary-friend-given womanliness. And the women who do choose to work in the sex industry, or wear revealing clothes and have lots of sex, are not just blamed if they get sexually assaulted or insulted or underpaid, but they get blamed for sexual assaults and insults perpetrated on other women - conveniently forgetting that the blame for such mistreatment lies with the man who committed the crime. If a woman gets attacke,d it's the attacker's fault, not the fault of another woman who posed for a photographer.

Good post, monkeytrousers (is she still around? Would love to read her thesis).
I work in a male-dominated industry and it can be tricky at times but at the level I work at, playing the blokes at their own game works; higher up and it wouldn't be necessary, lower down and there'd be no point as you wouldn't get anywhere. However, I've been as guilty as the blokes of forwarding on "jokes" which are sexist.

Sex sells... everything. Whether it be shampoo or food, sex is still the main selling point for everything. Look at those M&S adverts, the suductive voice they use. It's very sad that we now live in world where its all sex sex sex, how did we let it go this far?

Excellent post madamez, agree 100%

I'd also like to read monkeytrousers thesis - her posts are always articulate and interesting.

I wouldn't - if it's anything like her post, it's essentially a shameless rehash of other people's (Susan Faludi, Imelda Whelehan) ideas passed off as her own. With a lot of words ending in -ification thrown in for good measure.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=2724&threadid=348161&stamp=070702121347

i hope none of you posted on this thread.could be a long fall from your high horses.

Can you link that? I can't be arsed typing it in my address bar.

don't know how to link on this site sorry.just try a copy and paste

Is it funny?

It's the Daniel Craig discussion

About him being a ginner?

not particularly.just another thread from this site with women drooling over daniel craig and what a hunk he is.i have no problem with it, just noticed that none of the women on here complaining about women being treated like sexual objects rushed to defend him and pour scorn on those who were talking about this human being in a purely phhysical manner.