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To feel frustrated with friend

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Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 13:45

I’ll try keep this brief. My DP and her DH are brothers. She is one of my closest friends. Neither her or DH work, myself and DP would have good jobs. Myself and DP are getting married in 13 months, and have no children. She has 2. 4yr old and 2yr old.

Initially both myself and DP would have been very generous with DNs but favours soon became tasks. It was expected rather than appreciated.

A few things have reared their heads that has irritated me a lot. The 4 of us went away for a long weekend. On the last night they made it known money was tight and she wanted to spend what she had left on stuff for the kids. We decided to have a quiet night, and just go to the cinema and for dinner afterwards. DP ended up paying for the tickets and snacks at the cinema because neither his brother or my friend made a play to put their hands in their pocket.

My DP was quite irritated and afterwards when we went to dinner he told me he hoped he wasn’t expected to pay. Sure enough, we all ordered, they ordered beer and cocktails, she ordered duck and a starter. Bill came, and DP took out his phone to split the bill. We owed £42, they owed £60. Friend was quite taken aback but they paid. The whole way back to hotel, she blanked me and refused to speak to me. She was odd with me the next day so I spoke to her. She told me she felt DP was mean, and tight because he knew her DH and herself were broke and needed what was left for presents for her kids. She said it wasn’t like we were stuck for money and if he really couldn’t afford it he could have put their share on his card and they would pay him back when they got home.

DP is always the one left paying for taxis and drinks, in fact at their DS2 christening, her DH asked DP to pay for the food.

If we are out with them DP has to remind his brother he hasn’t bought a round.

I used to always buy her oldest son an outfit at his birthday and Christmas (top, jumper, pants, shoes/sneakers) and toys. After the second was born she would ask for more expensive things, and would ask for matching converse etc. The toys she would pick out would be expensive too.

I didn’t mind that so much until I saw her sell presents I had given (that she had picked out) on Facebook marketplace, for almost the price I paid.

DP told me to stop spoiling the children and in the last year I have picked up a toy each, for birthdays and Christmas. Her DH has told DP I have upset my friend because she feels I don’t care about the boys anymore.

We are going on a cruise for our honeymoon and ending it with 3 nights in NYC, and herself and her DH are talking about joining us and making a proper holiday out of it.

I don’t want to share our honeymoon because I know we will end up paying for a lot of their expenses.

How would you deal with money issues coming between our friendship?

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Butterymuffin · 29/01/2019 18:47

Like others, my mouth is still open at

he doesn’t work because he is working on losing a lot of weight so he preps his meals and goes to the gym every day to stay on track

SearchingForSeaGlass · 29/01/2019 18:49

Well they've made it clear that don't like you, don't respect you, and don't appreciate what you're doing for them. It's up to you whether you allow this to continue or not, but don't pretend you've no choice here. It is an active choice to spend time with them and to pay. I bet they talk about you behind your back all the time too, so don't confide in your "best friend" unless you want everyone else to hear the worst version of your life.

Ragwort · 29/01/2019 18:52

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funkylittleboatrace · 29/01/2019 18:54

@Ragwort same she lost me after the massage comment.

Thequaffle · 29/01/2019 18:56

They are so entitled. Your money isn’t theirs and you certainly shouldn’t share your honeymoon. Try to start distancing yourselves in a reasonable way. The friend is cheeky.

Asj0405 · 29/01/2019 19:00

Tell them you are absolutely not having anyone joining you on your honeymoon it's yours and DHs alone time.

With the bridesmaid shoes just say that you have already bought some for her, however if she would like to buy her own pair that is completely up to her but you will not be contributing to them at all.

With the kids I would second what a PP has suggested about taking them out for the day. My DHs sister does this with my kids, she takes each one out individually on their birthdays they love it whether it be to the park and an ice cream or trip to theme park (changes dependant on how much she wants to spend that year and what age they are) she has such a close relationship with them and I imagine when they're older they won't remember a single thing they got for their 8th birthday but they'll remember the day out at the beach where auntie x built a sandcastle fort with them and took them up on the big wheel with a HUGE ice cream. Or if you would still like to buy them a gift instead just say any ideas for DNs birthday, I have a budget of £20 for present this year can you suggest something he might like around that price point?

And stop subsidising meals, cinema. If they make a suggestion of going out just say are you sure you can afford that? We're more than happy to bring a bottle of wine to yours or come to us we'll go halfs on some nibbles and put a film on, we understand that having kids you may not have the money to be eating out all the time. DH still gets to spend time with his brother but your not having to pay for their night out

SleepingStandingUp · 29/01/2019 19:00

...we would go to cinema she just would stand there and wouldn’t take her purse out. So I would pay... or just buy one ticket!

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 19:13

@Ragwort, I assure you this isn’t a wind up.
I myself didn’t even realize how ridiculous all this has been until I wrote it all down. Day to day it’s infuriating but it doesn’t seem like we are as pathetic as we’re sounding.

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TheDowagerCuntess · 29/01/2019 19:17

To all those saying the OP should give her friend a piece of her mind, and tell her where to get off, etc.

It's not going to happen. The OP isn't capable of saying 'no', let alone anything more meaningful.

I mean, clearly the cheeky fuckers can't actually come on the honeymoon unless OP and her DP pay, right?

But at this point, I can see them blindly and passively handing over money to pay for them to come, it's so ridiculous!!

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 19:22

They have this guy they get money from when they’re stuck and he calls around every second Wednesday to collect the repayments. They are talking about getting a loan for the cruise and New York because she wants to go as it’s her 30th and feels like it’s her last chance to have a child free holiday.

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Klopptimist · 29/01/2019 19:24

DP always told me not to spoil the kids, but it’s hard not to especially when you know times are tough for mommy and daddy

Bloody hell, times are only "tough" because neither of them CBA going out to work. If the DC are clothed and fed then there is little that they actually need from the shops. Nip this in the bud once and for all.

pollypockett · 29/01/2019 19:24

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Gina2012 · 29/01/2019 19:25

They are talking about getting a loan for the cruise and New York because she wants to go as it’s her 30th and feels like it’s her last chance to have a child free holiday.

Why don't they both get fucking jobs?

Gina2012 · 29/01/2019 19:26

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TheDowagerCuntess · 29/01/2019 19:26

So what are you going to say?

'That sounds nice'...?

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/01/2019 19:33

They need to Get Jobs! Personally I would distance myself - they are scroungers and not going to change. I know he is your partners brother (I think I picked that up), but they are Bad News and taking you guys for a ride. Read this thread back and think what you would advise a friend to do....!

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 19:35

@Pollypocket, I am sorry that you feel like it’s not ringing through. I opened this thread with the original post because that’s what I wanted advice on.
Naturally the conversation escalated and other factors were brought up. I didn’t think all this detail and clarification would have been needed in the opening post.

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BasilFaulty · 29/01/2019 19:37
Shock Hmm
TheDowagerCuntess · 29/01/2019 19:40

So, what are you going to say to them about the holiday?

Offer to buy them some cruise wear, probably.

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 19:46

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Mmmhmmm · 29/01/2019 19:51

Off topic but what does DH mean in the way you're using it OP? Cuz it's clearly not your husband, as you're not married and keep saying DP too and the DH you spesk of is the brother of your fiance. Confused

Pugwash1 · 29/01/2019 19:51

They appear to have more neck than a herd of giraffes. Think you know what to do. Don't think the screen shots bring anything to the table although as she has children your problem may well shortly be resolved...

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 19:53

DP is my partner, we are yet to be married
DH is her husband, they are married

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Idlikeabunchofbananasplease · 29/01/2019 19:57

Fabaunt your not pathetic at all if anything your just being to kind. But agree with the above you must stop all of this and deffo tell them to bog off on your honeymoon. Best of luck on your marriage hope you have a good day

oiiiiiii · 29/01/2019 19:57

You're a mug
They are users
Your dp is too scared to give any consequences to his db
So you get to suffer discomfort in order to cushion you dp from dealing with his user brother head on
This means your dp is also a user tbh!

The only sensible thing to do here is immediately set radical boundaries, say no, and do not rescue ANYONE from the discomfort that THEY are causing.