Guilty of sexually assaulting a 6 year old - but no consequences

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Unbelievable! This poor child (upsetting content)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/student-guilty-of-sex-assault-on-girl-6-will-not-be-punished-rpzdx6bmv?shareToken=a5f3f8d4d214df63fa3b4d0f4323ea4c

There is already a thread on FWR but this needs sharing as widely as possible

"So there was this man who raped a bunch of women and girls and then axe murdered them."

"Yeah, but, have you considered that maybe he had a hard life, and also it's not nice to be judgemental?"

That's pretty much what reading any discussion about violence against women and children has felt like recently.

Shortage of dentists played a part?

I have sympathy with the idea of keeping kids of the sex offenders register for offences such as sexting / forwarding photos and things that could be deemed wrong but explicable by their youth. But this? I don't get it.

That article is very speculative. "They believe that Daniel’s middle-class background, strong educational attainment and career prospects helped to convince the sheriff to grant the most lenient possible disposal" is (or at least sounds like) complete speculation; the judge did say the circumstances were "wholly exceptional", so hopefully they are. Admittedly I can't think of a single scenario which would justify this verdict...

This actually makes my blood run cold.
I don’t understand it? How can he be found guilty but no punishment

The only exception I can think of that would justify keeping Daniel out of jail would be if Daniel has an incurable disease and is going to die next week.

I expect we'll see a lot more cases like this in the future. Children are pretty much expendable objects in society now. Also expect the cps to stop prosecuting child abuse image viewing as well. There's too much of it to police now. Perhaps the odd caution for the most severe images if you're lucky.

Men will keep pushing the boundaries and other men will allow them to do so.

How can he have no conviction if he was found guilty
She was six years old
Her parents said on telly last night that he was showing her stuff on computer then touching her

I don't really understand. What legal loophole? I can't fathom the reasons for the total pardon.

Can’t read it as it will trigger for me but the six year old will live with it forever and the fifteen year old will more than likely continue to commit similar offences through their life.

I agree that this is usually the case and I believed it would be what happens this time; but it seems that the absolute discharge means that this cannot be disclosed by the police on a DBS as the offence has essentially been "wiped".

Jesus.

And you’re right OP that the DBS isn’t the most concerning part.

I.think.it would still be recorded on a DBS wouldn't it a discharge isn't a conviction but it would surely still.be there?

He's been named, his photo is all over the papers. Do you really think he's going to be able to carry on with his life as normal? Vigilantes will make sure he has to leave the area and his past will follow him about for a very long time.

I can't see any victim's family just letting it lie tbh. If it was my child I'd be making sure everyone knew what he was.

He'd be safer in jail.

That is terrible. I have seen low sentences for this kind of thing before, but not a discharge.
And I find it super depressing that the first comment is about this lad's future. He did this when he was 15-17 years old. The majority of 15 - 17 year olds would not dream of doing this. That is because they know it is wrong.

The GDC may not allow him on the register. Hopefully.

Even students have to be "fit to practise" so hopefully he's been reported to them.

He should report himself in accordance with their rules.

We had a guy removed from my course for assaulting a nurse in A&E.

There isn't a shortage of dentists, there is a shortage of NHS contracts.

Being a woman summed up in one tweet, how depressing.

This is disgusting. The laws need to be so much tougher on people like this - but i fear it will never be.

It’s a very upsetting event but is it the dome thing to criminalise children for life and put them on the sex offender register for offences at aged 15 ?

If it isn’t it should be. I consider myself pretty liberal, but at 15 he was old enough to know what he was doing and cynical enough to get away with it for two years. The poor family, I would be livid if that was my child.

He is a dangerous individual. Would you let him near your child?

I hope this family gets some justice because from this article it seems they have been shut out. They weren’t allowed to see the Sheriff’s report.

x2boys I think an enhanced DBS would show this up, but not an ordinary one.

I agree that this is usually the case and I believed it would be what happens this time; but it seems that the absolute discharge means that this cannot be disclosed by the police on a DBS as the offence has essentially been "wiped".

As someone's already said, non-conviction information can be disclosed by police if they feel it's relevant. So just because someone's had a complete discharge doesn't mean it won't show on a certificate.

Unless the law in Scotland is different, the verdict certainly would be a conviction. The very fact that they were looking into an appeal against sentence implies that: you don't sentence someone who hasn't been convicted of anything. I wonder if the statement that it isn't is a mistake by the reporter?

It’s a very upsetting event but is it the dome thing to criminalise children for life and put them on the sex offender register for offences at aged 15 ?

Had he looked at pictures of himself assaulting the little girl he could be on the SOR for a number of years,but actually committing a 'contact crime' doesn't.

The world really does revolve around males.

13 year olds get more for criminal damage or assault. This person is a sexual predator raping children and gets a oh but your a good boy really. Ffs!