To make appointments with these GPs purely to tell them it’s their fault?

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5yo DD has had a wart on her hand for the last two years. To begin with I thought it would go away. It didn’t and it grew. I have never had warts and neither has any of the rest of the family - I have no experience of them. Googled, but as she was under 4 to start with, a lot of the treatments weren’t suitable.

When I showed the GP and asked what to do, she pulled a face and asked why I wanted to do anything with it. I muttered about being worried she might get teased, but the GP looked at me like I was made, so I accepted her response that I should do nothing. I felt pretty mortified for even asking.

Despite feeling like a complete tosser for wanting to sort out the bloody wart, I took her to the pharmacist when she was 4 and he gave us a gel thing to put on. This didn’t work, and a friend who had had warts suggested going back to the GP and getting them frozen off. So, I thought maybe I’d just had a strange experience and another GP might actually help. Well I got the same fucking response - a sideways, judgmental look and the feeling that he thought me a neurotic mother were all I got from this GP too. It’ll go away on its own he told me.

DD has had a bad spell of health lately, she has ricocheted from virus to virus and also unfortunately developed eczema on her face. Between the blocked, runny noses and the eczema she has touched her face a lot. Tonight I have discovered a fucking wart on her beautiful face. On closer inspection, she now also has 3 other smaller warts on her hand, along with the very large original wart. I am so upset. With myself for accepting what the areshole judgmental doctors said, but also with them. I don’t have a degree in medicine and didn’t know they could spread like that. Why didn’t they help me with the original wart? Why did they not consider the fact that they could spread?

I am a teacher and if I rolled my eyes and dismissed a concern raised by a parent which then escalated, I would have my arse handed to me, not only by that parent but also my line manager. I’ve got an appointment with another GP tomorrow who I really hope will actually help us properly with this (I’ve been told he is very good). But AIBU to want to make appointments with the previous two GPs, show them DD’s face and tell them that I hold them personally responsible for this?

Disclaimer: I would never waste GP time by actually doing this. But AIBU to want to? As I said, in my job I’d be hauled over the coals.

I also don't know of any link to hashimotos and warts.
Hashimotos is an autoimmune disease which means it is a result of your immune system effectively going into overdrive and over reacting to you own body.
Its not a condition that is the result of a low immune system so the catching every bug argument sort of falls off. Plus no ones immune system fights of warts... Hence why they hang around so long. If everyone with a healthy normal immune system could actively fight of warts very few people would have them or have them for long

Skin conditions can often be symptomatic of underlying conditions. That’s part of what a well trained dermatologist can spot that a GP is far less likely to.

You want everyone with warts and dry skin to see a dermatologist?

but the OP is being dramatic

marymarkle strongly disagree!

Why not? Happens in other countries! And if unpleasant, if not life threatening, issues get resolved in the process, then lives are improved, sometimes hugely.

As we all know, the cosmetics industry is huge and full of deception/marketing. Rather than people having their wallets drained by l’Oreal etc it really would be better for them to receive a proper diagnosis from a dermatologist. This saves individuals huge amounts of money.

If you want to spend your own money seeing a private dermatologist for any wart, go ahead,

Plus no ones immune system fights of warts..

Some people get them for ages, some people get one or two for a short time, some people never get them.

If you want to spend your own money seeing a private dermatologist for any wart, go ahead.

That would be a perfectly legitimate way for NHS GPs to address the issue, if they aren’t able to address it themselves due to funding constraints. What is not legitimate is to claim that nothing can be done for warts and that they are always a harmless nuisance to be put up with.

I suppose that it must be quite hard on the ego of some doctors to know that they could cure their patients’ ailments but for NHS restrictions on what they are and are not permitted to treat.

No, there is absolutely no point in seeing a dermatologist for warts. But if it is your money, waste it as you see fit.

marymarkle - you clearly despise specialist medicine and believe humans need to be made to put up with non life threatening illness. Other people think specialist medicine is the way forward and that humans deserve to live in a culture that encourages them to take good care of all aspects ts of their health.

I can't believe all the people saying we should just put up with warts! They are unsightly, embarrassing for some children and they spread easily. Freezing them is painful but a teeny dab of dinitrochlorobenzene liquid on just one of the warts daily will clear all the warts on the body within about 6 weeks, so why put up with them? It simply reminds the immune system to clear the virus, surely doctors can offer this, and if not then a dermatologist will.

A thee year old is very unlikely to be embarrassed by a wart - unless she she picks it up from her parents that she should be. It is one reason I would be reluctant to take my child to numerous medical specialists for such a minor complaint. It will teach her it is something to be self conscious about it.

This has turned into such a bizarre thread.

Calling the OP dramatic is at the heart of what's gone wrong. Patients have to 'know' exactly when it right to see the GP, not to soon, and not leave things too long, it be serious enough, and not insignificant, all benchmarks set by each GP, and supposed to be transmitted by osmosis to unwitting patients, or they'll get blamed and judged, when often its just a need for education and information.

OP is intelligent and after receiving some inouton here thread was able to make her own judgements easily, but her GP didn't give her this very simple info, otherwise she wouldn't have felt so wound up and angry enough to start it.

Those kind of reactions and judgements are what waste a lot of NHS time and result in patient dissatisfaction. Its resulted in two more visits by OP, two more spots.

Like I said, eczema extremis dealt with by other than NHS guidelines, very effectively, never used gp advice again for it. DC has beautiful skin. DPs often learn ways and has greater experience than any given gp. They become the specialists in their DC care and the days of ignoring DMs about their own DC are behind us or so I thought

Haven't RTFT but I suggest 'Aldara'. Costs the NHS loads (I had to buy it when we lived in Ireland as you have to pay full drug prices there).

My son had around 50 warts on his hands spread by infected excema.

This cream goes on 3 times a week at night (religiously) and every wart went in 3 months (when we were told they would).

It changed our life.

Sorry, to help, it cost 80euros a month but was worth its weight in gold. It's tiny sachets of cream.

Please ask your GP for it, they haven't always heard of it, we saw a private dermatologist who prescribed it.

*input on her thread

I thought it was posted by pp that aldara was poisonous to young DC and should never be used?

Sorry haven't rtft but try salactol if you haven't yet. It got rid of my years old hand warts when I was a child. It's amazing.

I've been told by a gp they don't do anything for warts anymore as freezing is painful and ineffective

I actually had freezing years ago and it was extremely painful and only got rid of one.

I have two atm, one of them for over 10 years!

I'm planning to get them privately removed

Doctors don't do anything anymore for removal of warts, so if that's what you want it won't happen regardless of which gp you see. There's plenty of over the counter treatments that you can use which are effective.
If you have concerns regarding your daughter's health, then certainly make an appointment and request blood tests etc.

It's not poisonous. However Aldara is licensed (even in the US) only as a treatment for genital warts, basal cell carcinoma and actinic keratosis. All of which are pretty rare in children. It has been trialled in kids for molluscum contagiosum but not shown to be effective.

It's use for non-genital warts, even in adults, is off-label. Whether you a comfortable with a private doctor prescribing a drug for your child that is not licensed for that specific purpose and has not undergone clinic trials into its use for that condition is up to you. It's clearly not poisonous in kids but it does have fairly unpleasant common side effects.

molluscum contagiosum

Wow, I didn't realise, it was given to us in Ireland, then I got it via a private GP in the UK when we moved back for DD who then developed them too. I didn't think to look up side effects, off to google now!

I've Googled, we had none of those side effects and it there was no irritation to my sons quite extensive excema.

I'd recommend everytime.