To make appointments with these GPs purely to tell them it’s their fault?

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5yo DD has had a wart on her hand for the last two years. To begin with I thought it would go away. It didn’t and it grew. I have never had warts and neither has any of the rest of the family - I have no experience of them. Googled, but as she was under 4 to start with, a lot of the treatments weren’t suitable.

When I showed the GP and asked what to do, she pulled a face and asked why I wanted to do anything with it. I muttered about being worried she might get teased, but the GP looked at me like I was made, so I accepted her response that I should do nothing. I felt pretty mortified for even asking.

Despite feeling like a complete tosser for wanting to sort out the bloody wart, I took her to the pharmacist when she was 4 and he gave us a gel thing to put on. This didn’t work, and a friend who had had warts suggested going back to the GP and getting them frozen off. So, I thought maybe I’d just had a strange experience and another GP might actually help. Well I got the same fucking response - a sideways, judgmental look and the feeling that he thought me a neurotic mother were all I got from this GP too. It’ll go away on its own he told me.

DD has had a bad spell of health lately, she has ricocheted from virus to virus and also unfortunately developed eczema on her face. Between the blocked, runny noses and the eczema she has touched her face a lot. Tonight I have discovered a fucking wart on her beautiful face. On closer inspection, she now also has 3 other smaller warts on her hand, along with the very large original wart. I am so upset. With myself for accepting what the areshole judgmental doctors said, but also with them. I don’t have a degree in medicine and didn’t know they could spread like that. Why didn’t they help me with the original wart? Why did they not consider the fact that they could spread?

I am a teacher and if I rolled my eyes and dismissed a concern raised by a parent which then escalated, I would have my arse handed to me, not only by that parent but also my line manager. I’ve got an appointment with another GP tomorrow who I really hope will actually help us properly with this (I’ve been told he is very good). But AIBU to want to make appointments with the previous two GPs, show them DD’s face and tell them that I hold them personally responsible for this?

Disclaimer: I would never waste GP time by actually doing this. But AIBU to want to? As I said, in my job I’d be hauled over the coals.

I don’t understand your question. There isn’t one treatment - every case will be treated differently on the basis of an individual diagnosis, with a combination of in office treatments, pharmaceuticals, skin care routine, lifestyle changes, hygiene changes etc.

For example, my DC with acne had several in office treatments before he was given any drugs. Try finding someone to do that in the U.K.! Impossible! Yet it’s critical to rapid improvement.

You keep saying Drs in the UK won't prescribe treatment that work and that other countries will prescribe. I am asking you what treatments you mean?

What are your medical credentials for saying it's "critical to rapid improvement"? Because one person's experience is an anecdote, not a universal truism.

What is an "in office treatment"

Treatment is an uncountable noun.

I can’t believe that someone who claims to be a doctor doesn’t know what an in office treatment is. Sorry - you’ve been found out!

And eczema is not curable. Treatable, manageable, remittable. Never curable. Love these armchair medics who think their personal experience and Google is equal to a medical degree and years of training and experience. Feel free to do my job anytime.

Well what the fuck is it you haven't answered any questions put to you.
And I don't give too hoots what you think you know.

Bahahhaaaa seriously. You expect this of a NHS GP service. Give me strength.

maria You constantly refuse to expand on what treatments you mean. That leads me to suspect that the treatments you are referring to, if there are any, are either not recommended at all for children, or used very sparingly.
Reminds me of people I know who used to go on about the amazing Chinese tea they used to buy for their eczema, until an investigation revealed that the tea was full of steroids and people were drinking sometimes dangerously high levels of steroids.

The amazing "in office treatments" you allude to seem to have no evidence base and seem to be money making private practice quackery at its best. You my dear are a fool.
cks.nice.org.uk/acne-vulgaris#!scenarioRecommendation

Rofl at in office treatments and the posters refusal to tell anymore unless we pm her..
She is a snake oil salesman selling quackery

Since I have plenty of evidence from personal and familial experience of rapid cures for skin conditions that the NHS had completely omitted to address, I suggest that you are the ignorant fool. And you might like to talk to dermatologists trained in countries where skin care is taken seriously.

PM me if you want to buy a miracle cure treatment for warts. All you have to do is send me £50 through paypal and I will send you some miracle cream. Warning though, it may take repeated application over a few years to totally eliminate the warts.

The lack of empathy for skin conditions on this thread is just illustrative if the ignorance and lack of understanding of dermatology in the UK. In other countries, dermatologists are a bit like dentists - a regular feature of life, and as much preoccupied with prevention as with cure.

So you are recommending we all go to a dermatologist every six months for a check up on our skin?

Not if you live in the UK, unless you have a lot of money, and even then you might not find it terribly useful.

Marymarkle, I didnt know aldara shouldnt be used with kids. We live in the UAE so the same restrictions as in UK often don't reply. Anyway, this was 7 years ago and she is still alive so it wasnt lethal at least and she no longer has a gammy warty hand.

Ahhh I think I’ve just realised who MaryNovella is, are you the lady who’s husband is an oncologist and you often come on medic bashing threads telling us all that we’re a load of shite?

In office treatments either those that were listed above or if you mean it in a US based sense... we UK GPs don’t use that term so of course we wouldn’t know what it meant!

Also how dare GPs sometimes be awake at night! Like memorial I too suffer with insomnia since my work has become so stressful I cannot sleep despite being so exhausted seeing genuinely sick patients and the constant flow of the ‘just in case crowd’. I worked 3 hours over my set hours today on my “short day”, not because I’m bad at my job, not because my patients get fobbed off but because we’re trying to swim when the NHS is sinking under the weight of poor funding, rapidly increasing demand and dangerously low staffing levels.

But of course keep your tin hat on and ring your bell about how we’re all uneducated fools who can’t treat any skin condition. We know different seeing as we actually practice medicine and you do not.

That would really piss me off too OP, I hope you get a better result with next GP

we UK GPs don’t use that term so of course we wouldn’t know what it meant

Surely you can see that this statement is an admission that (many) NHS doctors’ vision of medicine is reduced to the limits of what the NHS health care system allows them to know/believe?

And to be clear: I don’t want to doctor bash. The root cause of poor treatment on the NHS is not individuals but the system. However, it is hard to hear/read doctors claiming that cures and treatments do not exist. They may not be allowed on the NHS but that is a very different matter to them not existing. There are well informed and educated NHS GPs out there whose patients have private health insurance who are very good indeed at knowing when to go beyond the limitations of NHS prescribed treatment.

Not exactly the same but for a stubborn verucca a trip to a private chiropodist sorted it out for my son when he was 7. 28 quid well spent if you can afford it. They can use stronger acids than over the counter and it seems to help trigger the body's immune system to get rid in a week/10 days. Warts and veruccas lurk in the upper layers so the body doesn't react to them normally and like others say they usually will naturally piss off in 6 months or so but a big verucca can be painful. NHS did have him on a cryotherapy list but after two or three months waiting he was so uncomfortable I just swerved it with the chiropodist. I've had cryotherapy on a mole and it wasn't that different to the over the counter freeze spray, just a bigger aerosol!