To make appointments with these GPs purely to tell them it’s their fault?

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5yo DD has had a wart on her hand for the last two years. To begin with I thought it would go away. It didn’t and it grew. I have never had warts and neither has any of the rest of the family - I have no experience of them. Googled, but as she was under 4 to start with, a lot of the treatments weren’t suitable.

When I showed the GP and asked what to do, she pulled a face and asked why I wanted to do anything with it. I muttered about being worried she might get teased, but the GP looked at me like I was made, so I accepted her response that I should do nothing. I felt pretty mortified for even asking.

Despite feeling like a complete tosser for wanting to sort out the bloody wart, I took her to the pharmacist when she was 4 and he gave us a gel thing to put on. This didn’t work, and a friend who had had warts suggested going back to the GP and getting them frozen off. So, I thought maybe I’d just had a strange experience and another GP might actually help. Well I got the same fucking response - a sideways, judgmental look and the feeling that he thought me a neurotic mother were all I got from this GP too. It’ll go away on its own he told me.

DD has had a bad spell of health lately, she has ricocheted from virus to virus and also unfortunately developed eczema on her face. Between the blocked, runny noses and the eczema she has touched her face a lot. Tonight I have discovered a fucking wart on her beautiful face. On closer inspection, she now also has 3 other smaller warts on her hand, along with the very large original wart. I am so upset. With myself for accepting what the areshole judgmental doctors said, but also with them. I don’t have a degree in medicine and didn’t know they could spread like that. Why didn’t they help me with the original wart? Why did they not consider the fact that they could spread?

I am a teacher and if I rolled my eyes and dismissed a concern raised by a parent which then escalated, I would have my arse handed to me, not only by that parent but also my line manager. I’ve got an appointment with another GP tomorrow who I really hope will actually help us properly with this (I’ve been told he is very good). But AIBU to want to make appointments with the previous two GPs, show them DD’s face and tell them that I hold them personally responsible for this?

Disclaimer: I would never waste GP time by actually doing this. But AIBU to want to? As I said, in my job I’d be hauled over the coals.

a big verucca can be painful

Which is why it’s best practice to remove them immediately before they have a chance to grow and to interfere with walking/sports.

I've been qualified as a doctor since 1991, I have worked in hospitals, in primary care and in the pharmaceutical industry. I don't know what " in office treatments " are. How dreadful uk medical education must be .
Alternatively, if you know what you are talking about, it may be easier to communicate if you use British English.

Spockster - do you never go to international conferences?

Please do not, anyone, ever consider putting duct tape or gaffer tape on a child’s skin.

Or suggest it.

It can pull the skin off when removed.

In other countries doctors prescribe a sort of varnish and a small brush to be used on warts and verrucas, in conjunction with other treatments. The varnish prevents air getting at the wart/verruca. It needs to be removed regularly (this is very easy) and the wart/verruca filed before reapplication of treatment and sealing with varnish. It is important that neither the treatment nor the varnish touch the surrounding healthy skin.

Maria I think you are talking about salactol wart paint. You can buy it at your local chemist in Britain and people would be directed there. It does not need a Dr's involvement.

Oh god Maria yes it's called bazooka and it's available OTC no need to waste GP time or NHS resources.
You do actually get that all these amazing private treatments are paid for and the doctors have a vested interest in getting people to pay for them?
I wonder why you haven't gone to med school to become a doctor since you seem to know it all already

Yes spockster don't you take the drug company bribes and go to international conferences?

Please please keep pushing this. I had warts all over my hands as a child, also one in nose and one above my eyelid. I also had eczema, every bug going etc. We had private health insurance and I went every other Tuesday to have frozen for years. Eventually one day they just got really itchy and disappeared over night (was about 12 by then) however I was eventually diagnosed with Hashimoto thyroiditis - autoimmune condition and my body just didn’t fight the wart virus.

Pissing myself at the big treatment UK doctors don't known exists turning out to be Bazooka.

I absolutely agree that people need to try their local pharmacist as a first port of call for many ailments and that they can often be cured without a doctor’s involvement. However, on this thread, I have read several times that “there is no cure for warts” and the posters writing that claim to be doctors. It’s fine if doctors direct their patients to their local pharmacy or any other source of reliable treatment, saying that treatment is not available on the NHS but is available privately. It is not fine to say no cure exists when it does, but the NHS will not fund it.

The other issue is that when national health systems won’t fund or reimburse certain pharmaceutical treatments, pharmaceutical companies dilute/change the concentration of the product to make it available OTC. Some pharmaceutical products can appear to be available OTC in one country but only on prescription in another when in fact the concentrations are different.

And, to return to the wart varnish: I checked an old prescription and it was one of four products that needed to be used in conjunction in quite a specific way. Not as simple as buying a single OTC product.

Expectations> reality of what an underfunded healthcare system can provide. The downfall of the NHS.

Please do not, anyone, ever consider putting duct tape or gaffer tape on a child’s skin.

A school nurse, years ago, used to recommend using the old cloth plasters (the zinc sort with the unremovable glue) and to leave it on until it was beyond skanky before replacing it.

The wart virus must have some way of evading the immune system to survive. I think that these various magic methods must change this somehow so that the immune system is wakened up into recognising it shouldn't be there. (Not sure about the penny though ).

There was a girl on the television who had immune problems who had the most terrible verrucas. I am not sure how she managed to stand up, never mind put on sock and shoes. How it did not ring alarm bells with doctors I do not know.

There was a girl on the television who had immune problems who had the most terrible verrucas. I am not sure how she managed to stand up, never mind put on sock and shoes. How it did not ring alarm bells with doctors I do not know.

This is what happens when doctors have been confused by decades of NHS propaganda into believing that if a treatment is not funded by the NHS, it does not exist and/or the ailment is unimportant.

It's very hard to get rid of them. Freezing them off would be very painful and it could grow back anyway. DD had a big problem with veruccas and warts when she was your DDs age and nothing we did got rid of them. The GP pretty much said to give up and they will go away one day on their own. This is what happened. It was bizarre as they just suddenly started disappearing and were all gone in the space of a week. I used bazooka many years ago to get rid of a wart and it kept coming back until I went at it until I was sure it was well and truly gone. I still have the scar to this day...

Blondiecub... I am sorry you had hashimotos, but do you not think that the fact you went to have your warts frozen weekly for years.. Kind of backs up the scientific evidence that nothing guarantees a cure of warts.
They went eventually DESPITE your years of cryotherapy not because of it.

theredjellybean - you are not understanding Blondiecub’s point. She is saying that the recurring multiple warts should have been a warning light to her doctors that she had a more serious underlying condition.

I have Hashimitos and never read any link with warts?

I wouldn't make an appointment but I would write a letter to the doctor's surgery.

Regardless of the cryo treatment not being suitable for her age, you should let them know that twice you raised something you were concerned with, only to be brushed off and what you felt, judged and deemed as dramatic.

It's a shame, doctors used to be a caring profession.

It's a shame, doctors used to be a caring profession.

I think it is quite hard for doctors who are truly caring to work within the parameters of the NHS and the social issues with which the UK is rife. It must be very wearing indeed.

But the OP is being dramatic.

^what MariaNovella said about interpretation of my post. Warts aren’t specifically related to Hashi’s; I had years of cryo which didn’t either remove any warts OR stop them spreading. But taking a holistic approach - my body not fighting a common virus (warts)- I had a cluster on every finger in the end, plus on my palms, in my nose - eczema, caught every sore throat, bug etc - despite my siblings being fine - could/should have raised concerns that there was an underlying condition

I had a verruca for 14 years and I had warts on my hands and other verrucas on my feet in that time. nothing worked, nothing. Then one day the one on my hand fell off and the rest disappeared in about a week.