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AIBU?

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To make appointments with these GPs purely to tell them it’s their fault?

326 replies

TheAngryBatBot · 28/01/2019 20:52

5yo DD has had a wart on her hand for the last two years. To begin with I thought it would go away. It didn’t and it grew. I have never had warts and neither has any of the rest of the family - I have no experience of them. Googled, but as she was under 4 to start with, a lot of the treatments weren’t suitable.

When I showed the GP and asked what to do, she pulled a face and asked why I wanted to do anything with it. I muttered about being worried she might get teased, but the GP looked at me like I was made, so I accepted her response that I should do nothing. I felt pretty mortified for even asking.

Despite feeling like a complete tosser for wanting to sort out the bloody wart, I took her to the pharmacist when she was 4 and he gave us a gel thing to put on. This didn’t work, and a friend who had had warts suggested going back to the GP and getting them frozen off. So, I thought maybe I’d just had a strange experience and another GP might actually help. Well I got the same fucking response - a sideways, judgmental look and the feeling that he thought me a neurotic mother were all I got from this GP too. It’ll go away on its own he told me.

DD has had a bad spell of health lately, she has ricocheted from virus to virus and also unfortunately developed eczema on her face. Between the blocked, runny noses and the eczema she has touched her face a lot. Tonight I have discovered a fucking wart on her beautiful face. Sad On closer inspection, she now also has 3 other smaller warts on her hand, along with the very large original wart. I am so upset. With myself for accepting what the areshole judgmental doctors said, but also with them. I don’t have a degree in medicine and didn’t know they could spread like that. Why didn’t they help me with the original wart? Why did they not consider the fact that they could spread?

I am a teacher and if I rolled my eyes and dismissed a concern raised by a parent which then escalated, I would have my arse handed to me, not only by that parent but also my line manager. I’ve got an appointment with another GP tomorrow who I really hope will actually help us properly with this (I’ve been told he is very good). But AIBU to want to make appointments with the previous two GPs, show them DD’s face and tell them that I hold them personally responsible for this?

Disclaimer: I would never waste GP time by actually doing this. But AIBU to want to? As I said, in my job I’d be hauled over the coals.

OP posts:
SevenMelon · 30/01/2019 21:48

I am still waiting with bated breath to hear MariaNovella's medical qualifications though Grin

RCohle · 30/01/2019 21:50

What's your advice to the OP then Maria? Are you really suggesting she should go abroad to have her child's wart treated because all UK GPs and dermatologists are totally woeful?

explodingkitten · 30/01/2019 21:55

Best option... Leave alone, warts have natural life cycle and die off

The GP fobbed me off for years with this line till I asked how long the life cycle was of a wart. He told me two years. I pointed out that I was complaining about the same wart for over nine years!!!!! I've never got rid of a wart without treatment. Maybe it's because my immune sysrem is shit but they won't die on me naturally.

7salmonswimming · 30/01/2019 22:11

I’m more concerned about the fatigue, constant colds, loose stools, eczema. I think the warts are just a symptom of an underlying malaise. I would be worried too, in your shoes.

Can you insist on a blood test? It sounds like something is a bit off, maybe a vitamin or iron deficiency? If she has a good and balanced diet, perhaps you could try children’s vitamin tablets? I don’t honk they do much, personally, but as you say she is capable of exercise I think there’s something only a bit wrong.

Lostmychristmasspirit · 30/01/2019 22:17

@sevenmelon I very rarely comment on these threads as they get me down.

marymarkle · 31/01/2019 00:23

Things like constant colds, eczema and tiredness are pretty common in 5 year old children attending school full time. The GP did advise more sunshine for Vitamin D.

LadyandGent · 31/01/2019 01:46

Marymarkle, they're really not common symptoms of a healthy child. I see you left out the loose stools, itching and warts.

I know you're a GP, but I don't think the OP is wrong to be concerned about the mix of symptoms.
If it was one of mine, I'd be arguing with the GP until they at least took bloods.

memorial · 31/01/2019 01:47

I am an experienced GP of 16 years working close to full time.
I also FWIW have 2 children so have had my fair share of coughs, colds, rashes, worms gosh yes warts and even a few more serious illnesses.
I have diagnosed and treated thousands of coughs,colds and rashes. And yes warts. Ive probably seen millions of children.
I've even you know seen some really ill people. Managed chronic diseases and cancer. Severe and less severe mental health issues. Looked after them when they die. Rejoiced when they've got better.
I'd like to think I'm quite good at what I do. I've certainly worked long and hard to get here and work pretty long and hard now.
I think my patients quite like and respect me.
But the level of entitlement and disdain and rudeness of the British public who all think they know better (despite my 30 years of training and experience, and nicely demonstrated on this ridiculous thread) has become unprecedented and the main reason there are less and less GP's around.
It's a wart. There is no need to see your GP at all. They have no magic cure. And so OP making an appointment just to berate them is beyond unreasonable. And may just be the reason why that person with cancer or mental health breakdown isn't seen for 2 weeks. I hope you are all very proud of yourselves.
And no I'm not new I've been around for over 10 years in various guises. But threads like this often make me disengage for some time.
A wart

memorial · 31/01/2019 01:48

Ladyandgent
Those are all perfectly normal symptoms of a small child. What exactly are you hoping a blood test will show? Please with your medical expertise explain.

LadyandGent · 31/01/2019 01:49

Or maybe I'm mixing you up with another poster. Because I find it impossible to believe that sunshine would be prescribed by a GP. Hats, coats, gloves, scarves. Yup, you're going to get loads of Vit D.

The child is not well.
Whether that's a lactose allergy, or something else, the GPs have done nothing.
The little girl is not healthy.

LadyandGent · 31/01/2019 01:51

memorial
If you're a GP, I'm the Pope's mother.

memorial · 31/01/2019 01:54

Ladyandgent
You know this how exactly? I see many many children like this. I sadly also see many rude entitled demanding and angry parents like you. It makes my job impossible. Needle and haystack are the words.
But in my 16 years as a qualified GP (excluding all the prior training and experience), I have seen ONE childhood cancer, diagnosed 2 new coeliacs, and a handful of true lactose intolerance. What is it that you think every childhood sniffle is a sign of?

memorial · 31/01/2019 01:56

I'm a GP I assure you. Why on earth would I say otherwise. I used to be babydoc for many years. I qualified med school in 1994. Took a circular path to being a GP. Qualified as GP in 2003 and joined my rather lovely partnership shortly after.
I let you check me on the GMC register of I trusted this pit of pythons for one millisecond

wafflyversatile · 31/01/2019 01:57

I had warts for about 10 years. Periodicall you tried treating them including freezing them off. Nothing worked. Then they disappeared overnight.

LadyandGent · 31/01/2019 01:58

Memorial - I know you're not a GP because a GP wouldn't be on here ranting and raving at 2am in the morning.

memorial · 31/01/2019 01:58

My original username was macdoodle you'll find more posts under that if you wish to play troll hunter

memorial · 31/01/2019 02:00

Well my mother died 3 days ago quite horribly as it happens. We are actually human too. So sleep isn't my friend at the moment.
A lot of GP's dont sleep very well anyway. I'm a chronic insomniac at the best of times.
But I see you are expert at all things medical including our sleep patterns. So jolly good carry on.

UAEMum · 31/01/2019 02:01

I know this is not your question specifically, but, by daughter had a very similar situation. She had a wart on the palm of her hand for years when she was very little. Other kids in nursery didnt want to hold her hand because of it. The NHS were useless. Then we moved to the UAE and I took her to a dermatologist. He tried everything, freezing, laser therapy etc. In the end he prescribed aldara cream, which is apparently hideously expensive. Cleared up in a week. Totally gone! She had had that wart for years.
Another friend tried it for huge numbers of verrucas on her son and also was like a miracle.
Ask for it and hopefully will be a good outcome.

marymarkle · 31/01/2019 02:07

I had thought aldara cream should only ever be used on adults?

memorial · 31/01/2019 02:11

Sure ask for aldara. Maybe ladyandgent can prescribe it for you

To make appointments with these GPs purely to tell them it’s their fault?
marymarkle · 31/01/2019 02:12

And yes when I said all this was normal in a 5 year old child attending school full time, LadyandGent I did not list loose stools, warts and itchiness.
Itching is very common in anyone who has eczema. Warts are common and mean nothing. So that leaves loose stools which may simply be a result of a high fibre diet or be normal for this child.

Most 5 year olds get tired attending school full time. And things like eczema and itchy skin that often goes together, warts, and frequent colds are very common childhood things. Yes minor things like this can be upsetting, but they are normal.

marymarkle · 31/01/2019 02:12

Thanks memorial, I was right, it should not be prescribed for kids.

memorial · 31/01/2019 02:15

Marymarkle
You can't possibly be a doctor up at 2am. Surely. I know this means you are a fraud

marymarkle · 31/01/2019 02:16
Grin
nolongersurprised · 31/01/2019 03:01

Threads like this reinforce why alternative, quacks do so well. Patient has vague, unrelated symptoms but is fundamentally well so feels fobbed off by their GP.

Quack practitioner does something that makes no sense such as hair sample, nail test, weird test where patient holds onto a metal rod and - ever so surprisingly - this generates a printout of various elements or whatever that the person is lacking. But it’s ok because that practitioner sells the exact supplement that the person needs. What a relief!

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