AIBU to request a positive thread on Brexit?

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Everyone here (nearly) says it will be bad.
Let's hear some positives about our coming freedom from the EU!

Nice work walkingdead. Definitions and Alternative Definitions. I'm sure I've heard something similar to that before . . .

Well for my child minder is fantastic. I will need to do two peoples work (paid for one of course) due to compulsory redundancies in my work place. So less time with my baby.

Or in the flip side, i may be one of the third made CR and get to spend lots of time with him, losing said child minder, and struggle with rent instead.

Err. We'll finally be able to have wonky carrots without EU interference.
There will be more jobs picking carrots, and other low paid jobs that no-one wants.
People will grow more of their own veg as they'll be skint and hungry and fucked off
DM won't be able to moan about Europe and their silly carrot directives, giving them more time to focus on the royals and the new UK civil war.

longwayoff Would you have heard that from the same politicians who promised to respect the result of the referendum?

I think it's unfair that degrees that have lots of placements do not take into account the fact that the student can't work part-time.

Sorry wrong thread

If wages go up after Brexit, so will inflation
or jobs will have to be cut to keep public sector budgets stable

rents might fall, but that will not make houses affordable
as UC is limiting options
and lenders will tighten their criteria

turning its back on the world will not go well for the UK

I think you know where that came from walkingdead, I do believe you are a fan. Respect does not feature greatly in his repertoire. Anyway, deflect, distort, deny. Keep at it.

£350 million for the NHS
Countries around the world queueing up to do great trade deals with up.
No downsides.
All our uplands will be sunny.
Cheaper food and clothing.
Businesses flooding into the UK with foreign investment.
We can deport all criminals.
Bring back hanging.
No more human rights nonsense.
Oh, and blue passports!

Justanotherlurker in the U.K. we aren't federal and both of the major parties have a dismal record on decentralising power.

I'm not downplaying anything federalism means decentralisation. Is the EU living up to this aim - no it isn't. It is one of the issues where reform is needed. We need to reform not abandon the whole project completely because it isn't exactly what we want.

sahknowme Junker is a civil servant the fact that there is any democratic accountability for his role makes the EU more democratic than the U.K.

TalbotAMan I understand the function of the Supreme Court your point was that the ECJ was appointed - and so it is, just like the U.K. Supreme Court.
If your point was about parliamentary sovereignty then you should have said that.

In relation to EU immigrants you say The figures are controversial. Really, every fact check site I have visited makes it quite clear EU immigrants make a net contribution even including infrastructure. If the figures are controversial a neutral reference would be interesting. If you can find one.

The fish, for heaven's sake, don't forget the fish.

longwayoff
Are you perchance aka Nicolas? Did democracy not work for you?

Business will be booming at my soilant green factory.

Oooh, here's a positive. Apparently Brexit will prevent disgruntled Leavers rioting. At least, that's the reason we can't have another referundum (a real one this time, with actual facts instead "expires the day after the referendum" teasers)

Because nothing says Democracy like running scared of the mob.

Well as a pesky lefty all my life I am converted. Hey the EU was not perfect and I used to think at least we had some kind of certainty. However I have come to realise we are a great nation and we will chanel the spirit of the Empire (because that was a really proud moment in our history). Also we had Churchill and survived the blitz. Nothing to worry about going forward in the 21st century, I guess we are just sending a fleet of ships to conquer these less informed nations. Luckily everyone will be in employment because all the potato pickers and care workers have been sent on their way so everyone desperate for these jobs will finally have their chance. Another positive is we get to exchange these awful fit, young imagrants, draining our communities by working and paying taxes for the British OAPs who buggered off to the sun. Total win!

Hmm ODDBINs are going into administration just been announced they blame brexit !! So sorry can’t see any positives at the moment.

In real Life fethere is very little talk about it.The attitude is sort of hold on to your hats and a resignation that we are probably heading for no deal.If it's mentioned at all it's just people wishing it was all over.
People I know are topping up food not stockpiling.

OP, a positive thread? With 100% positivity on MN? Doubtful.

It's positive because it has given many of the working class people of this country a voice. A reminder to those in power that they exist and do matter.

So many of the concerns from other mums I've heard are relatively trivial e.g. about whether it'll still be possible to study abroad cheaply and whether certain fruits and veg will still be available in supermarkets. Let's all stockpile food...lucky you can afford to huh?

Hello people...do you have any idea how the other half in this country live? Do you even care as long as you can continue living in your comfortable little bubbles?

Oh but people who wanted change are ignorant and racist...they are uneducated and don't understand the ramifications right?! Let's ignore them, ramp up project fear, have a second referendum and worry about their concerns later.

Let's also pretend that all of those middle class friends of ours who keep quiet when we are discussing Brexit didn't vote for it either.

Is this really the direction you want our politics to take?! Is nobody else concerned by all of this, in particular the way some MPs are trying to overturn the will of the majority of voters because they think they know better?!

Are you really so certain

that brexit will be bad? I'm not because I don't have a crystal ball and all I have seen from either side is speculation. The only thing I know for sure is that it is an opportunity and will be what we as a country choose to make of it.

It might be a threat to your short term goals, but why not embrace the change because like it or not it's what Britain voted for and it's going to happen.

*It's positive because it has given many of the working class people of this country a voice. A reminder to those in power that they exist and do matter.

So many of the concerns from other mums I've heard are relatively trivial e.g. about whether it'll still be possible to study abroad cheaply and whether certain fruits and veg will still be available in supermarkets. Let's all stockpile food...lucky you can afford to huh?

Hello people...do you have any idea how the other half in this country live? Do you even care as long as you can continue living in your comfortable little bubbles?

Oh but people who wanted change are ignorant and racist...they are uneducated and don't understand the ramifications right?! Let's ignore them, ramp up project fear, have a second referendum and worry about their concerns later.

Let's also pretend that all of those middle class friends of ours who keep quiet when we are discussing Brexit didn't vote for it either.

Is this really the direction you want our politics to take?! Is nobody else concerned by all of this, in particular the way some MPs are trying to overturn the will of the majority of voters because they think they know better?!

Are you really so certain
that brexit will be bad? I'm not because I don't have a crystal ball and all I have seen from either side is speculation. The only thing I know for sure is that it is an opportunity and will be what we as a country choose to make of it.

It might be a threat to your short term goals, but why not embrace the change because like it or not it's what Britain voted for and it's going to happen.*

chocooverload- what you say is 100%right! The referendum has given a voice to millions of people who were fucked over and don't care if the middle classes can't afford fresh fruit. They couldn't afford a roof over their heads and nobody cared then!

But what has their being fucked over got to do with the EU?

How many of them mobilised and campaigned politically about being fucked over and forgotten by whoever did that to them? Or did they vote just the once in a referendum on the EU? In a referendum filled with lies and corruption.

It's a valid point that all these people have been left behind etc. But they've hardly voted for progressive change, have they?

Plus during the referendum we were promised so much positivity and that it would all be so easy. Why aren't people fucked off about that?

Our EU membership has been used as a scapegoat for other grievances and it's all going to get shittier for everyone.

The WTO is hardly democratic. How many times did you vote for a delegate? On the WTO rules? Erm like never. And if you're concerned about red tape and bureaucracy overload, then you're in for a whale of time with the WTO.

We've all been suckered. Enjoy the ride.

And I will never embrace a shit idea. And Brexit is a truly shit idea.

Well im very skint due to the Tory goverment (working single mum...universal credit...) but im a remainer. Luckily i can see that austerity and tory policies are to blame not the eu.

I also don't get why a super state is a bad thing. But i am not a patriot snd i think countries should work together in this day and age. The world is getting smaller...our minds need to become more open to deal with that.

A voice for the working class? Codswollop! What is the voice saying? You are talking in generalisations.

No-one knew what they were voting for in the referendum.

There should be another one now we do know.