Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

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Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

obviously I wasn’t talking about people who have a physical or psychological problem.

These are your exact words Kissing. You clearly think that caring deeply for animals (particularly dogs) is odd behaviour and is only excusable if the owner has a "problem".

And you don't see why that is an offensive attitude? You manage to insult pet owners and disabled people all in one go.

Your view of pet ownership is highly unusual. One might be tempted to use your turn of phrase and suggest you have a "psychological problem"

You reinterpret Blue's account of why she loves her animals as her being socially dependent on her animals and labelled it as very odd. You then used the phrase "crazy" cat woman as a comparison.

You talk of your children being "too old" for keeping goldfish and that they "grew out" of wanting a dog. As if caring for animals is an immature and undesirable characteristic to be discouraged.

You equate loving animals with disliking humans. You appear incapable of accepting that pets are found in every type of family / living situation because pets add to the lives of people whether they live alone , with a partner, in a family or in a bloody great commune! Animals don't replace human relationships, they add something different.

I still don't know how we solve it. I dislike dogs licking my leg or crotch as much as dog owners on this thread would not like me to lick their leg or crotch in the street or indeed putting hairs on my clothes. So how can owners with dogs not on a lead stop them doing that to me?

@Xenia Yes, well trained dogs should not go up to people and lick them in my opinion. Its down to an owner training their dog to have good recall. If they don't, then they should not be off lead. Our dog is never off lead unless its a secure field or park because he is a retired racer and his prey drive for small fluffy squirrels is too high that it poses a risk to himself and potentially cats. I know he is very gentle to people and never jumps up, licks or barks. But we also know better than to let him off lead. In my opinion, a dog owner should only be letting their dog off if they are 110% certain they can recall their dog and they are safe,

Xenia I don't have a simple answer I'm afraid.

But would like to correct the idea that dog owners en masse would not see a problem with a dog off the lead going up to people and licking them.

Dogs need to be fully under control when out.

Dog owners are a cross section of society as a whole so they will range from highly responsible to totally irresponsible and dangerous. Sadly like all other walks of life - e.g. car drivers, range from totally responsible to totally irresponsible and dangerous.

The answer presumably lies in a combination of education and legislation.

The best cure for kids wanting a dog is looking after someone else’s dog for 2 weeks. Then the pleas end.

@MsTSwift or maybe parents shouldn't discourage kids form liking certain animals? Of course, while kids live with their parents its the parents choice whether to allow a pet or not. However, when those kids grow up to be adults and live on their own they may then choose to have a dog or any other pet. It really annoys me seeing parents encourage children to dislike animals.

As that was in response to - and explicitly said to be in response to - Blue saying she “much” preferred dogs to people

My preferring the company of my dog to people doesn't mean I don't love my DH, DC, other members of my family or friends. It simply means that I prefer the company of my dog when family things are exhausted, for reasons I've already set out to you. I can't be arsed to go into the whole person/Dog debate with you. I find the company of my dog to be very relaxing. I have met lots of friends through him. My dog causes me no problems or stress, whatsoever.

You are the type of person who makes pet owners appreciate their pets more than people. Interacting with my dog is relaxing and pleasant. Interacting with small minded people is anything but!

You are the type of person who makes pet owners appreciate their pets more than people. Interacting with my dog is relaxing and pleasant. Interacting with small minded people is anything but!

Couldn't agree more. Some of the people on this thread is why at times I much prefer my dog.

We're in far more danger from other people than from dogs. There are far more victims of murder than of dog attack, sadly.

And we should of course ban cars, as there are around 3,000 fatalities per year.

Couldn't agree more. Some of the people on this thread is why at times I much prefer my dog

I asked my DC this morning who they like the best in this house. DS said, "The dog because he doesn't make me do homework, clean my room, hide my XBox contoller or nag". DD said, "The dog because he's always my friend".

Sounds perfectly normal to me. I won't rush to get a psychiatric appointment for them 😁😉

I may need to get some support in for the fish. It seems nobody likes them. Poor fish 😢

Aww no the fish must be suffering! We once had some fish and they gave us some good laughs 😂

Again, I'd really like to know why you thought that emoticon was in any way appropriate to sharing a link of a young child's death?

Oh do stop being goady. I wasnt laughing at a child dying! The emoticon was a response to another poster claiming only dogs are dangerous. There really is no need for you to try nd start on argument up

@Kennehora the laughter was also aimed at the idea of expecting hamsters to be put down. Its a bit of dark humour

Mumsnet is not a place for personal attacks. You obviously have no interrst in the thread and feel the need to be goady. Nobody else seems to have had an issue with it.

The only time I have seen anyone attacked has been from girls/women with autism.

Ds was attacked by an autistic girl who I had to punch in the face to save 1 year old Ds.

We were at a local park that had a tiny farm attached.

We were looking at the piglets when this girl let out a scream and launched herself at Ds.
She was trying to rip his head off and had her hand tangled in his hair. The only thing I could do was punch her in the face to get her to let go.

Ds was screaming, she had pulled lumps of his hair out by the roots. His head was bleeding where she had banged it on the wall.
Her carers came running up and apologised as they led her away.

I think it was a regular thing she did.

Dd was in hospital and a sweet little lady (about 4ft 8”) was sat in her bed when the autistic woman got out of her room. Came up to the bed of the little woman and screamed at her that she had taken her bed then proceeded to punch her in the face repeatedly before we could get her off this woman.

That is someone being attacked

A dog barking and accidentally knocking someone over is not being attacked.

Kicking a dog and it retaliating, even then it didn’t leave a mark or go through the material and was probably just mouthing was not a dog attack. That was a human atracking the dog

All those thinking that those that attack should be pts do you think the girl and woman who attacked Ds and the old lady should be pts as well. I doubt either will change and will always be a danger to themselves and those around them.

Also as I already stated the emoticon was not because a child died. Why ask me to explain if you aren't going to accept my explanation?

As a non dog owner I shouldn’t HAVE to know what to do in case of a dog attack. It is the DOG OWNER who should make sure this doesn’t happen. They didn’t. The dog was standing over OPs child. Quite frankly seeing some of the horrific Injuries that can happen from dog attacks, no one should judge OP for what she did in the heat of the moment.

This. The utter shite spouted by some dog owners on this thread is appalling.It's hardly surprising that some people are hostile to dogs when there are so many dog owners who think the rights of their dogs are equal to or more important than the rights of people.

I have never kicked, hit or otherwise hurt an animal in my life, but if a large dog knocked my child down and stood barking at him I would probably do exactly what the op did. That's an immediate threat to my child. What the fuck would you expect? I'm not standing around to wait and see whether the dog is going to bite him!

*It's hardly surprising

I reserve the right to judge someone who kicked a massive dog who was showing no sign of aggression and potentially put their child at risk of being seriously or catastrophically injured. It was a spectacularly stupid thing to do. Even if the op assumed the dog was being aggressive surely she’d have realised that kicking it was more likely to inflame it than calm it down. The dog was a Great Dane, not a tiny dog that you could shoo away with your foot.

Awh come on now PengAly, as a dog owner you must be a sadistic, cold blooded killer. You only rescued your dog to terrorise the neighbourhood didn't you?😆

Our hamster was a nasty bastard! Rescue a hamster next time. Don't try picking the bloody thing up tho 🐭

The dog was standing over OPs child

Were you there? Or did you just make it up? Nowhere has OP said the dog was standing over her child. If the dog was attacking them she wouldn't have had chance to kick it. This is a dog, the size of a Great Dane - according to OP.