Dogs in coffee shops?

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Is this a thing now? I've previously seen dogs in clothes shops and today am in a coffee shop (which sells food) and two dogs have been welcomed with treats from behind the counter.
I own two dogs - but ew!

Dogs in coffee shops is quite common where I live. Obviously they need to be well behaved and toilet trained.

A bit like children in coffee shops. In fact I'd prefer to be in a cafe with dogs who are often lying under the table than a cafe with children ( often fucking noisy , running around and annoying my dog )

Yup, got a certificate. There's a little codicil on it that says your dog smells and everyone hates it. Including the queen

You have a certificate stating my dog smells and everyone hates him - even the Queen? 😂😂😂

Pic of said certificate needed

Harold is clearly here to troll and attempt to piss people off. It's quite laughable how angry they seem about dogs to be honest. Maybe a dog decided they didn't like them once and they just can't move past it.

I reckon Harold was a cat in a former life. One that was terrorised by dogs

I like Harold. I think she's talking complete sense. Problem is, it's nigh on impossible to reason with doggie people. I've often thought that people who are ridiculously over-attached to their pets (to the point where they think pets have the same rights as humans) are like that because they can't relate well to other humans. Not to say all dog owners are like this - some are able to create a distinction between loved pet and human being.

To repeatedly compare dogs to children (well behaved v not well behaved) is simplistic and tedious. Children grow up to be (hopefully useful, tax-paying) adults. Dogs are nothing more than one person's / family's pet - their existence is of no consequence to anyone else.

Dogs in the country village shop, in a country pub, in a park cafe is one thing. Dogs in shops and banks etc is unreasonable and not fair on other customers. People should be able to go about their necessary daily business without being barked at, sniffed, slobbered on, tripped up. And NO It's not anything like fucking children, fgs.

Can't help thinking this is middle-class entitlement. I live is Chavsville and have never ever seen tattooed yob try to take his pitbull into any public place. But pop down the road to Poshsville, and it's a different story. Thinking about it, the only places I've seen dogs in shops has been in solidly middle-class establishments. I had assumed it was against the law, but no! I guess the more brassed-neck you are, the more successful you'll be at doing whatever you want.

The town I live in is 90% coffee shops. Most of them are child and dog tolerant but there is one that is dog free and one that is child free. The child free one was so controversial it made the local news. Both the dog and child free shops are the two most popular in town. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

To repeatedly compare dogs to children (well behaved v not well behaved) is simplistic and tedious. Children grow up to be (hopefully useful, tax-paying) adults. Dogs are nothing more than one person's / family's pet - their existence is of no consequence to anyone else

You’re missing the point of the comparison totally.

Children and dogs are very similar. Need feeding, exercise, stimulation and their behaviour managing. A badly behaved child is just as irritating in public as a badly behaved dog.

I suspect a Harold-free coffee shop would be quite popular too.

It has nothing to do with class. I see people of all classes taking their dogs into a local restaurant/bar that allows them, and there's nothing entitled about taking dogs into places that actively welcome them. And why on earth would taking dogs into stores be against the law? If the stores don't want dogs in as most don't then owners shouldn't take them in, but some go out of their way to make them welcome and there's no reason why they shouldn't be there when the owners want to include them.

I've yet to have a dog knock me over in a store but I've lost count of how many children have been running around, including two kids of about 11 racing up and down the aisles, and running into me in M&S recently without their parent doing a damn thing about it. I don't care if they grow up to be 'useful' tax payers in the future, it isn't a pass to behave as they wish now.

Pub dogs and dogs in the occasional shop weren't exactly unknown in the working class area I lived in before either.

I have an assistance dog, full uniform etc, so I can take her anywhere

Was in a Costa Coffee just the other week and this woman kept looking over and glaring at me. Really pissed me off. I have every right to be there as does my dog.

As a PP said, if you don't like dogs in cafes, go somewhere else

Dogs in the country village shop, in a country pub, in a park cafe is one thing. Dogs in shops and banks etc is unreasonable and not fair on other customers.

But the thread is about coffee shops.

But pop down the road to Poshsville, and it's a different story.

I don't think it is anything to do with class. I live in a seaside town which is also surrounded by farms and countryside, so a LOT of people own dogs. Therefore there are local coffee shops that welcome them, and every pub allows dogs (1 is dog free upstairs). It's a sensible business decision as locals will use the businesses through the winter, when out with dogs. Tourists use them in the summer, when we all hide from the tourists.

Well Harold I think the majority of people would rather have a dog sat calmly on the floor of the coffee shop than some foul mouthed idiot like you on the next table, when you appear to be incapable of forming a sentence whiteout peppering it with expletives.

Just wondering if all those telling me I can't take my dog to the café/shop etc are the same people that tell me I can't leave her at home or even in the car?!

So much bitterness here. I used to be bitter and nasty about children for an image because I was told I was infertile and didn't want people to ask me if I wanted them. I'm wondering if something awful like that is going on here. The only other people who I know who I work with who are nasty about children is a woman whose children have nothing to do with her now because she's a narcissist and a woman who lives in a bad area with lots of naughty children apparently.
Its not a good look! Humans>pets. It's weird to compare.

I think that you're projecting here, MrMakersFartyParty. The majority of the frothing seems to be coming from the dog haters and not wanting children running riot in cafes doesn't mean that I hate them. I'm happy to share a cafe/restaurant with children I just don't want them throwing food in my direction, racing around shrieking or crawling under my table.

I have children. Adore the bones off them most of the time but can still understand the comparisons between kids & dogs. Especially given the reasons for hating dogs in public places also apply so aptly to children.

Doesn't make me an awful person!

I think it's nice that more cafes allow dogs. I also think it's nice to have dog-free spaces as not everyone is comfortable around dogs. Like anyone else if a dog isn't behaving well it should have to leave the establishment.

I'm not bitter or infertile but would still prefer to share a space with a dog(s) than other people's children. Not everyone has to enjoy the company of strangers' children, just like not everyone has to enjoy the company of dogs. There's space for both and people can live how they want. I don't really understand why people get so defensive and offensive about people's choices.

Dogs can smell, kids can smell, adults can smell. Dogs can be disruptive, kids can be disruptive, adults can be disruptive. Just do what you enjoy and leave others to it without criticising their choices or being offensive. If you can't do that, it says way more about you than them.

I'm wondering if something awful like that is going on here

I’m a mother. I’m not a dog (or indeed any pet) owner.

Psychology fail on your part.

Shops/cafes are entitled to do what they like. I don't particularly want to be around other people's pets when I'm in a cafe/shop. Guide dogs are working dogs and are there for good reason - obviously. Different situation altogether.
I'll just go elsewhere.

White Stuff in my home town is dog friendly. My friend works there and she's not a fan. Owners let them brush up against the clothes and they recently had a wee incident.
Nice...

As a Lake District resident, I don't find dogs particularly friendly, in turn.