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Reasons why I don’t want MIL to see my baby, AIBU?

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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 15:01

  1. She talks about her sons, grandsons and daughters boyfriends penis but mainly her sons and not in a parenting sense
  2. She’s allowed her grandson to run out the door numerous times and when he fell downstairs stayed in her bed playing phone games
  3. She’s bragged about raping a man to her children’s partners and children
  4. She did cocaine just last year
  5. With every grandchild she brags about teaching them “nana” as a first word and how upset the parents were (its lies btw)
  6. She stretched her granddaughters stomach by upping how much milk she had and the baby was crying in pain (mother of baby told me)
  7. She’s allowed men to come in and control her kids and abuse them
  8. She gave her children takeaway so they shut up while she has loud sex in the other room (random men she meets on a night out)
  9. She’s on the dog ban list but has got a new dog
10. Many of her cats and kittens have gone missing no sign of remorse 11. House is coated in fleas 12. Frequent smoker and smokes in the house and car 13. Takes credit for a lot of things and creates rumours about people which include their parenting 14. Let’s all of her kids smoke drink and do drugs underage 15. The new illegal dog apparently nips 16. Lies 17. Made her children lie about being abused so they didn’t get taken off her properly and all of her kids have been on the child protection register 18. Shares secrets with other family members whenever her kids confide in her 19. Broken her daughters nose 20. Bullies her children 21. Flirts with her son 22. Has let grandchildren’s clothes get peed on by cats and still let them wear the clothes 23. All of her daughters have lost their virginity underage (she’s quite supportive) 24. I’ll make this the last one so I don’t go on anymore, she doesn’t ask how my baby is, she doesn’t ask to see my baby and she doesn’t even know how to spell my baby’s 4 letter name, she also doesn’t agree with her sons parenting
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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 18:44

@vuripadexo
I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from now and SS aren’t currently involved with me or my partner since we’re quite capable and told them we didn’t need any support which we don’t but I’m considering contacting them about her, we do have a health visitor still so would mentioning it to her and she could maybe help with arranging with SS etc
And thank you
I started to get a bit upset by your comments but I feel you are giving the best kind of advice now

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Snog · 22/01/2019 18:44

OMFG YANBU

Mymomsbetterthanyomom · 22/01/2019 18:45

Oh girl.I am so sorry you are in this situation.Your baby has to come first but you already know that.
We actually had to cut off my husbands entire family over 16 years ago. It was for very serious reasons and we don't regret it for a second.

MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 18:48

@AcrossthePond55
I agree I think if he was going to do it he would’ve
Thank you for the personal input and I’m sorry that was the only way out for your friend, I know what to expect from the conversation but my partner has surprised me sometimes so we’ll see
Thank you for your reply

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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 18:50

@Mymomsbetterthanyomom
Thank you so much
and I wish we could do that but the whole family I could never expect that of him he doesn’t have much aside from me and our baby, I’ve helped him cut toxic people out of his life before though so I want to support him the best I can if this means dropping his mum

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vuripadexo · 22/01/2019 18:57

MamaBearXO Tue 22-Jan-19 18:44:00
@vuripadexo
I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from now and SS aren’t currently involved with me or my partner since we’re quite capable and told them we didn’t need any support which we don’t but I’m considering contacting them about her, we do have a health visitor still so would mentioning it to her and she could maybe help with arranging with SS etc
And thank you
I started to get a bit upset by your comments but I feel you are giving the best kind of advice now

I completely understand where you coming from now! I understand you aren't mentioning the age because you felt people might judge you but without it it's more difficult to give advice because people are imagining a your partner as a 30 year old man and are being more harsh.

I didn't mean SS would have been watching you btw only that they probably have checked in with you at the beginning of the pregnancy to offer support. sounds like they did and that's good. don't feel rushed into anything btw. get yourself sorted. settle things down. chat to your partner. then later maybe chat to the HV and then later on SS.

I'm sorry if i upset you but I'm glad i asked those (personal questions) because now you can get the right advice!

People are imaging you as much older and that's why the advice is wrong. Don't move. Settle and talk to your partner. Don't rush into anything but keep being open with your sources of support.

RubyWho · 22/01/2019 18:58

YANBU except for 23 which is questionable. Depends what you mean by encouraged. But in the main YADNBU

aconcertpianist · 22/01/2019 19:04

It's absolute bollocks
to let her see your baby OP.

Alaria44 · 22/01/2019 19:35

I was the same age as you when I cut my toxic "DM" out of my life.

I currently only live 2 minutes away from her and I haven't spoken to her in 8 years. Even if she did talk to me I'd tell her where to piss off.

So it is possible to go NC even if in close proximity but your partner is still enmeshed with his family and he will not see what you can.

He may just get defensive if you try to make him see the light or hopefully he may wake up and see things for what they are.

I really hope you and your partner can come together on this and protect your DC.

You are doing the right thing by trying to minimise any contact.

Good luck OPFlowers

MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 19:46

@vuripadexo
Thank you so much, and yeah I can understand why others would assume that for me it’s just my life so I don’t always think to mention it and I also get embarrassed incase people assume we’re just silly teenagers who didn’t have an idea what we were doing but I think if they saw me in real life they’d realise haha
Thank you again for your advice Smile

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 22/01/2019 19:50

This sounds very extreme. There will be truth-policers out there on this one, telling you they don't believe a word you say, but I've seen enough evidence of abusive families to know that scenarios like this one are not necessarily creative writing exercises or exaggerations. There are some sick people out there, and I've come across some equally sick stories that are not a million miles from what you've posted above.

You say your partner's 'not fussed'. That, too, isn't a surprising attitude coming from someone who grew up in such a family. They're deep in the FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) and this is the only 'normality' they've ever known.

Emotional incest, the behaviour you describe between your MiL and her son, is a real phenomenon. And this behaviour alone is enough of a red flag, even without the rest of your eye-popping laundry-list of deeply concerning behaviour. But if there's any question of exposing your child to abuse, then the only unreasonable course of action would be even to consider allowing this woman within a mile of your precious baby. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that Social Services intervention would be in order if you did. You have a duty to protect your child, whose welfare is far more important than this woman's feelings.

I wonder if your DP has ever had counselling in order to come to terms with these experiences? It's something that would be worth considering, if and when he's ready to face up to it. And the hardest thing in the world is to look your own life in the face and recognize this manner of abuse for what it is. It was an appalling start to life, and I'm very sorry for him.

MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 19:52

@RubyWho
She was supportive in the sense with the recentest daughter so her daughter was 14 going out with someone who was 16 and the police got involved because the boys side of the family were concerned about the obvious and at this point they weren’t doing anything the mum managed to persuade them all that she’s made sure nothing will happen, and the daughter said I’m not going to be stupid like my older sisters I’ll wait till I’m old enough (to shorten things she didn’t wait but now she’s 16 so nothing can be done now) however my partner tried to do something about it because he thought it was disgusting and he wanted to protect his last sister and he got called abusive by his whole family for defending himself from her being physical

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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 19:52

@aconcertpianist
Thank you

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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 19:55

@Alaria44
Thank you so much and you’re very strong yourself doing that

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MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 19:59

@MarieIVanArkleStinks
Thank you, there’s not much I can say to this, it’s a very upsetting topic and obviously disgusting but thank you for your input
Myself found it weird that people did think I was making this up I mean have you seen the world we live in? Anything is possible from what I’ve learned

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snop · 22/01/2019 20:07

Omg I wouldn't want to look at her never mind want my children to see her

AcrossthePond55 · 22/01/2019 20:54

@MamaBearXO

I hope he does surprise you!

And I think you are doing damn well for 19. At that age I definitely wasn't ready for motherhood! You stick to your guns.

MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 20:57

@AcrossthePond55
Thank you
And thank you again currently weaning so that’s keeping me busy :) and enjoying baby swim classes

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BlackPrism · 22/01/2019 21:01

Have you not called SS? And the RSPCA?

MamaBearXO · 22/01/2019 22:15

@BlackPrism
I’ve called the RSPCA and last time the big sister called SS on her she mananged to talk herself out of it again and she always does

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MamaBearXO · 23/01/2019 21:59

He surprised me again, he's agreed with her not seeing baby Smile

Thank you everyone for your advice and support Thanks

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AcrossthePond55 · 24/01/2019 00:30

Wonderful!!! And best of everything in the future for you all.

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