To ask if you've ever personally known an infamous killer/serial killer/

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I'm fascinated with true crime and was having a conversation with my Grandad once. He told me that one of his brothers mates was friends with peter sutcliffe,and that he had met him a couple of times.

Interested to know if others have have had encounters or known a serial killer

Ha mixing up my washington state killers sounds quite even though it shouldn’t! It’s like you own them!

Yes! I went to school with an infamous 'Mr Big' called Chris Little. He was actually shot dead whilst driving his car (case never actually solved but lots of 'rumours' about 'Who Done It'!! ). Very nasty man responsible for many 'things' round 'our way'.

Scots ha yes! I suppose it read that way

When we were visiting DH home town last year, we came into some traffic. As we came to a stop in a sort of wooded area, I looked out of the window and shivered, even though it was a bright day. I said to DH I had an eerie feeling and didn't like it (WA has what feels like millions of trees, so the feeling did strike me as odd at the time) and then the traffic lights changed and we moved off.

He told me later that just behind that particular patch of trees was where Mr Bundy had an automotive repair shop and had abducted (and probably worse) young girls there

Scotschic they went to school in Ryton where Liam was born before moving to Scotland.

The news reports talk about their relationship starting in late 2011 when Rachel left Liam’s father no information about how they met.

They were together in school but probably not in a serious way as Rachel having a relationship outside of Nyomi shows, always walking around holding hands and kissing when not getting wrong off the teachers (as any other pairing would). They were both in the school choir as I mentioned as that’s how I knew them (I was in a different year) never thought they would be murderers no weird glint in their eyes but the relationship seemed toxic even then, control and jealousy was a large part of it.

Following the murder they returned to a local pit village within the north east but got hounded out when people in the area found out what they were accused of

The Bundy Tapes has just been released on Netflix - has anyone watched it yet? I'm hoping to try watch tonight.

There is also a film coming where Zac Efron plays Bundy!

covetingthepreciousthings
Yes I watched most of it yesterday.
Typical psychopath , clever and arrogant. Thought he was untouchable

Not a killer, but a paedophile. We were in our 20s then and chatted at a party - it came out much later he was convicted of the crime. Grim. He was a friend of a friend so only met him once think goodness.

My mum is friends with the grandma of April Jones, the little girl murdered by Mark Bridger, and I slightly know her. She (April’s gran) has never really got over it; none of the family have especially as he won’t reveal what he did with her body. Whenever I go into a church I light a candle for April.

Was talking to my dad last night about this thread, he told me my grandmother was sent to Holloway for for driving offences when Myra Hindley was there. How was it ever appropriate to put such minor criminals with that kind of evil 😬

I neither know any murderers or have any tenuous links to murderers. However, I can confirm that if you read this thread when you can’t sleep, at 4am with a fever of 103°, you will have some crazy shit dreams!

Minor criminals are mixed in with horrendous criminals all the time due to the categories. So in a c-cat prison you'll have a multiple murderer sharing a cell with Someone in for say fraud or tax evasion, as the murderer will move through the categories during their sentence. Eventually they'll be d cat, be in an open prison, and be working in your local library, charity shop, going on home leave, weekend leave, and attending college.

The prison I worked in was a remand prison so was B cat, we got every prisoner in the region through our wings and they would be mixed up with whoever came in that day. Some would be multiple killers, hardened criminals and they'd be staying with some who weren't even guilty (or at least got found not guilty!)

My mum is friends with the grandma of April Jones, the little girl murdered by Mark Bridger, and I slightly know her. She (April’s gran) has never really got over it; none of the family have especially as he won’t reveal what he did with her body. Whenever I go into a church I light a candle for April.

I'd forgotten they never found her body. How tragic.

The step-brother of a close friend of mine served time for killing his step-dad (his real dad was married to my friend's mum). Used to see him at Xmas when they'd have family gatherings. He's out of prison now, still claims he's innocent and most of his step-dad's body has never been found. Saw him recently when his real dad died, didn't speak to him though (not through any deliberate move, he just kept to himself in the garden while I was looking after my friend's mum inside the house).

I taught in the area when April Jones was murdered and before he was arrested a number of my pupils who lived near April in machynlleth told me everyone knew it was him and that he was a none local 'weirdo' ( their word).

The whole thing was so hideous and shocking as none of us saw where we lived as dangerous.

I thought they had found evidence of her remains in the fire place. But I could be miss remembering that. Driving past his house afterwards always made me shiver.

They found some human bone, but blood in the house so I think they assumed it belonged to her as they couldn't get DNA from the bone.

Oh yes I remember now. All so sad, and grim. Not having that closer for her parents must be horrible.

Worked in a Lanarkshire hospital (1980's). Senior colleague was a close relative of the second last person to be hanged in Barlinnie Prison, Glasgow. Supposed to have killed nine people, but it's believed to be more.

@LashesZ - do you live in Scotland, by any chance? I’d hate to think there were two guys with the same awful experiences in body disposal.

There was a poor bloke locally, killed by two men he met in a pub. The chap had learning disabilities, and used to ask me out every week, whilst I was working at my Saturday job. I’d known him for years, and he was a decent kind of bloke, with an open and trusting personality.
He, and his friend who also had a learning disability, were beaten to death. Whilst I didn’t know the killer, I did have to give evidence, as I worked in the pub they were all last seen in. It was so awful - they were just young chaps, and the two guys who killed them were scum.

My mum taught a girl whose father killed her mother. Her and her sister hid under the house (not England) and managed to escape. My mum took them out for a day with my brothers and I - I didn't really know what had happened just that I wasn't to mention their dad.

Also, my friend and I were getting into her car one day and her neighbour, who was a gardener, was out putting his gardening tools into his van and he smiled and made small talk. Two days later my friend rang me to ask which day it was we'd seen him as the police had come round to talk to her. Turns out he was actually on his way to murder his lover in the local woods.

To whoever queried a PP about whether her mother was lying about being on the Hindley jury. She didn't say that. If you read her post properly

I think quite a lot of people will have some sort of connection to a murder case. I grew up in South East London and there was a neighbouring family we were quite friendly with when I was little - the two sons were among the gang who murdered Steven Lawrence. I remember my mum saying to me; yes, it is them, it is those two boys.

One of my schoolfriends was the daughter of a fairly notorious gangster. She never said anything about it but when I was in my teens my dad came to collect me from her house one afternoon and on the way home asked me a few questions about her, like what's her surname and was her dad at home? He then told me who her dad was (TBH I think my dad was wrong to tell me about it, though he said I shouldn't ask my friend anything, and I never did.)

A friend of mine ghost-wrote biographies, including well-known criminals such as associates of the Krays, so at her wedding one of the good luck telegrams read out was from Reggie Kray.

There was a point in the mid-90s where there was a bit of glamourizing of former gangsters. I was at a club night where Dave Bell showed up; he was doing some sort of film project and wanted my friends to set up a club night for him. I refused to have anything to do with it and kept out of his way, because I thought he was an arrogant prick and was already pissed off with the whole 'old-fashioned gangsters are cool' thing that was going on.

I knew someone who had been in prison for 25 years after being convicted at 16. I only met him in his 40’s and he was a wonderful man. He’d punched someone in a gang fight in his teens they’d fallen onto a drain and died. He’d grown up in prison and was very remorseful and changed his whole outlook on life and became a Samaritan.

Oooh! I've remembered one!

My mum's friend and neighbour,Mrs.H. had a sister whose husband was having it off with a woman at the factory he worked at.Years they were at it,years.

Those days, women would take their husbands a hot lunch in the winter and meet them at the factory gates to hand it over.

So Mrs'H.'s sister after she found out, met her husband with the immortal words "I've brought you your dinner" - and clobbered him over the head with the cast iron stew pot

He'd got a thin skull, apparently (and she'd obviously got the strength of a woman scorned ), he fell down with a fractured skull,and died.

Mrs.H's sister was locked up in Broadmoor for life. No parole back then.

What I remember is, a) reading about it in the local paper, and b)listening to my dad about his impressions of Broadmoor as he used to drive Mrs.H.there to visit. Bleak moor,scary place,locked doors and corridors,jailers with huge bunches of keys, and the visitors pat-downs.

But did she deserve being locked up for life in a place for the criminally insane?

Dunno,just dunno..