To ask if you've ever personally known an infamous killer/serial killer/

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I'm fascinated with true crime and was having a conversation with my Grandad once. He told me that one of his brothers mates was friends with peter sutcliffe,and that he had met him a couple of times.

Interested to know if others have have had encounters or known a serial killer

I agree, why comment if you don't like it. There are do many interesting things to read here so just move on

And not infamous, but my ex stabbed me 26 times, went to prison for 2 years, came out and killed his new girlfriend, he's just left prison after 14 years.

Doesn't sound safe to be let out again
Are you given any safety from him at all? I hope so.

I know someone who killed his wife and disposed of her in the hospital incinerator. He worked there. He used to bring my mum flowers which is quite creepy

Also went to school with a guy that brutally murdered another by hitting him with a snooker cue.

you selectively quoted

-Peter Sutcliffe was arrested near the school my mum taught at.

read what i put:

Peter Sutcliffe was arrested by the school that I went to and where my mother was a teacher.

how do you think infant/junior school kids felt about it when they found out? no consideration then for how children felt about things and we were told all about it at home. it was when i was a pupil and when mum was a teacher there. no we didn't feel special. it was scary.

Not infamous at all, but my driving instructor strangled his partner infrontof their daughter. All because she had left him and apparently he “wanted to teach her a lesson”. He was in prison, not sure if he’s still there but I do know he got several good kickings for what he did whilst waiting for sentencing. The photo of him from the day of sentencing shows him missing several teeth and sporting the biggest black eyes I’ve ever seen. He was always a bit pervy but you’d never think he could be dangerous. He was a pretty crap instructor too

Turnip, I think she’s right... being a Halifax lass myself I think most people round here have a “Yorkshire ripper” story.

My stepson was at playgroup with Beverley Allitt in a picturesque Lincolnshire village. No stories to share though. My tenuous connection is with Mary Bell. I taught at the primary school she went to. I started the September after the murders and no one could believe it. Staff said she was bright but very disadvantaged because of her home life.

TheCounter maybe you are not aware of the large teams that work work offenders and ex offenders especially if they have mental health diagnosis which many do

A guy who used to drink with us murdered and dismembered his “landlord” who was a nasty piece of work and turned out was a paedophlle. The guy who did the murder seemed ok , and. I remember his daughter had a lovely unusual name. The murder happened just down the road from where Ian Rankin the author lives and he said it was strange to see the police tape and think of a murder being on his doorstep when he writes about murders.

Interesting thread. I have ways been fascinated by real crime stuff and wanted to be a criminal psychologist. I now work in law and order in another way but love all the tv programmes like making a murderer etc.

The Mary bell case interests me, I know she had a absolutely awful upbringing but don't know too much about it. Does anyone know of any good books about her I can read?

But no professional I know would ever dream about talking about specific people or cases on forums. It's not the done thing.

Hacing discovered one og the first people i worked with in social care committed an incredibly awful crime and then another whilst in prison and won't see thenoitside world for another 17 years, I have no interest in bragging about the association. I worked with this person intensively one to one andi was ill equipped to deal with them and i didn't spot warning signs in hos behaviour that over a decade later when a former colleague told me what he'd done made sense in retrospect. I feel i was one of a very long line of adults who'd failed him and ultimately his victim.

Marry bell went on to have her own daughter, who knew about her and they have a great relationship don't they?

In think marry bell was one of the few to actually turn their lives around.
I know she killed 2 children, but j can't help but to feel for her. She was poorz with little food Her mother was a prostitute, she got beatings regularly, and she suffered sexuall abuse from her mother n punter I believe.

People didn't care about children like they do now, so I can kind if see how this pool of anger and hurt could end up like that. I'm glad she was sentenced but also glad she's turned it around as best when could.

Oh and her mother had tried to kill her a couple of times when she was a baby/toddler.
One time having fell from a window which caused brain damage which effected descion making and movement.

I worked with a woman ten years ago who smothered her 3 year old daughter. She was in a custody dispute with her ex DH. I think she got 8 years. She claims she cannot remember it happening and lied a lot when questioned.

My dm went to school with Mary Bell. No nice memories there she once told me..

@April Not surprising, bearing in mind what that poor child went through.

Howard Hughes. He used to hang around my school gates. Always knew he’d end up murdering.

Funky, that’s really sad

A boyfriend when I was a teen went on to beat his friend to death and is now serving life in prison.

Cries Unheard by Gitta Sereny is probably the definitive book about Mary Bell.

Yes, Gita Sereny has done two fascinating books 'The Case of Mary Bell' and 'Cries Unheard'.

Very interesting and fascinating read

I was reading about Mary Bells case this morning, it's very sad, it sounds as though she never had a chance. Does make me wonder aswell whether the other girl involved Norma Bell was entirely innocent, it seemed she was let go & found innocent.

Howard Hughes? The American millionaire?

I had a client who was extremely violent and was suspected of a murder but it was never proved that the victim had been murdered so he got away with it. I felt sure he had killed her and in general he was a complete sadist and had a long history of extreme violence towards women. I said at the time he would commit murder in the near future and I wasn’t wrong. He killed a poor bloke with special needs locally. Bloody horrible. I’m so sad for that poor guy and his family and I hope they never let him out, he was a real danger as he couldn’t control his temper one bit.

A teenager in the small rural village I used to live in shot both his parents in their front room. Just blasted them to kingdom come with a shotgun.

He was the most unassuming boy you could ever meet and his parents were pleasant and friendly.