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gentlyscented · 20/01/2019 10:50

I'm fascinated with true crime and was having a conversation with my Grandad once. He told me that one of his brothers mates was friends with peter sutcliffe,and that he had met him a couple of times.

Interested to know if others have have had encounters or known a serial killer

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Picoloangel · 22/01/2019 13:19

OwlBeThere that’s interesting. I occasionally read snippets and it seems as if there is uncertainty about his involvement and possibly a campaign of some sort? I don’t know anything about it just what was on news etc

Sarahandduck18 · 22/01/2019 13:32

An ex said he was babysat by a future child murderer.

fibonaccisequins · 22/01/2019 14:01

My DH was in the same classes at school, as Michael Ross who shot Shamsuddin Mahmood in the Mumutaz restaurant in Orkney.
He says he has no idea if he did it. He struggles to marry it up with the boy he went to school with.
(Obviously his actions since haven't covered him in glory)

Tink2007 · 22/01/2019 14:08

My grandad was an antiques dealer and went to a house which had furniture for sale. He said the gentleman was very weird and kept standing in front of a cupboard in the kitchen and said that item was strictly off limits and he wasn’t allowed to open it. My grandad said his behaviour was just very odd and he left not buying anything.

Turns out the gentleman was Dennis Nielsen.

fibonaccisequins · 22/01/2019 14:12

To clarify, the murderer wore a ski mask, and Michael Ross was convicted on circumstantial evidence 14 years after the murder. He's always maintained his innocence, and is currently appealing his conviction.
He tried to bolt from the dock of the high court in Glasgow, to a hired car with firearms stashed in the boot. He's also tried to escape prison on more than one occasion.

jocsin · 22/01/2019 14:27

My older sister trained on the same ward with Beverley Allitt at Grantham hospital.

Amber0685 · 22/01/2019 16:57

My Grandad had dinner (group of GPs) with Harold Shipman. He says he was very controlling, everyone finished each course when he did.

gentlyscented · 22/01/2019 18:50

@jocsin she was an evil bitch 🤬

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BlancheM · 22/01/2019 19:15

This is an interesting read but to be taken with a pinch of salt, the personal stories- fine. But no professional I know would ever dream about talking about specific people or cases on forums. It's not the done thing. Most of the tales don't add up anyway.

Smokeyrobinson · 22/01/2019 19:26

My late mom met the Rillington Place serial killer - Christie. She was an acquaintance of his wife and was introduced to him a few years before his crimes were discovered.

When I was 8 (in the 1960s) I was on holiday at a caravan park with my parents. The bloke in the next caravan was a bit strange. He owned a really cute little dog and he invited me in to collect some comics. I ran to my dad (who in his younger days was a bit of a hard case) who went round all guns blazing and told him not to approach me again.

About 6 months later we read in the news that the bloke had been convicted of the murder of a little girl who he lured with the promise of comics and his cute dog. I've googled him a few years ago and was still in prison.

Thank God I had my dad to protect me - makes me feel sick to this day thinking of what could've happened.

Rudgie47 · 22/01/2019 19:30

Plenty of professionals sell their stories/whistle blow to the media believe me, never mind anonymously on forums.

theluckiest · 22/01/2019 20:27

My dad worked for the civil service (Jobcentre) in the 70s. He was astonished when a colleague he had spoken to regularly in the London office was arrested for murder.

He's cropped up a lot on this thread but it was Dennis Nielsen. Apparently he was an oddball & brought in homemade cakes for colleagues every week (bleeee....dread to think what else had happened in his kitchen).

Also worked on a project in a women's probation hostel. Many of the women were in for drug offences but one much older lady had been released after a lengthy stretch for manslaughter. She had been horribly abused by her ex husband and had finally flipped one day, hitting him over the head and killing him. Terribly, terribly sad...

Annasgirl · 22/01/2019 20:44

Well mine is true @Blanchem

jocsin · 22/01/2019 20:56

*Gentlyscented
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Yes, Allitt was a monster. My sister went out to the pub with her a few times and said she was funny and outwardly very dedicated to her job. I don't think my sister ever really got over what BA did. The whole thing ruined her enjoyment of nursing and she left a year after completing her training.

Boredboredboredboredbored · 22/01/2019 21:44

Very sadly my friends sister was murdered by her exh a few years ago. He then stabbed his ds and tried to strangle his ds. Both the dc survived despite their injuries. The bastard was jailed for 30 years. My heart breaks for the dc who lost their Mum and Dad that weekend. There was no history of any sort of abuse either. They'd been very amicable post separation.

Baggybag · 22/01/2019 22:14

NC for this

Harold Shipman was ExDPs family doctor.

His dad was unwell so Dr Shipman made a house call. He asked his mum to leave the room and luckily his mum declined and stayed put.

An elderly lady local to me was murdered. I know of 2 people who got questioned over it as their appearance matched that of CCTV.

Nettletheelf · 22/01/2019 22:35

What’s with the tenuous links to Peter Sutcliffe?

When you read a thread asking whether you have personally known a notorious murderer, why would you think it relevant to contribute the following nuggets:

  • My nan used to work with Peter Sutcliffe’s dad.
  • My mum’s friend lived on the same street as Peter Sutcliffe.
  • Peter Sutcliffe was arrested near the school my mum taught at.
  • Peter Sutcliffe disposed of one of his victims’ bodies in a park near the school I went to.

So what? Do you think that it makes you special? You and a thousand other people who never met the person in question? It reminds me of those ‘grief thief’ people who can’t bear not to be involved in any kind of crisis.

Mojito8654 · 22/01/2019 23:16

I assisted in the death of a serial killer.

It was fairly recent. And I believe the protocol of the prison, led to.his death

cinemalover · 22/01/2019 23:27

@Mojito8654 assisted in the death? What does that mean?

Mojito8654 · 22/01/2019 23:36

I was there in a professional way.

I think he could have been diagnosed earlier, but prison medicine attracts juniors.

I think he would have died. But in different circumstances

Nodnol · 23/01/2019 00:10

@Frosty, definitely don’t go any further into the toolbox murders. Absolutely horrific.

Iflyaway · 23/01/2019 00:19

He seemed to be a normal guy.

So did the ex that tried to throttle me... Shock

I made the mistake of (my innocent self at 20) tell him I was leaving him. NEVER DO THAT!!

TheCounter · 23/01/2019 04:26

how many on here worked with murderers 'on a professional level'
Just on one obscure thread on a forum.
There must be a queue outside their cell doors. Is it like a book signing?

LifesMiracles19 · 23/01/2019 04:54

I am, regrettably, related to a well known British child serial killer. They came to my wedding.

LifesMiracles19 · 23/01/2019 04:56

And not infamous, but my ex stabbed me 26 times, went to prison for 2 years, came out and killed his new girlfriend, he's just left prison after 14 years.

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