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Is this sexism and can i complain?

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 18:46

Ok, me and my partner (male) wanted to relive a bit of our youth and go clubbing / night out yesterday as generally there's really good discounts on sundays and its a bit more relaxed.

So we approach a club and theres one line for both sexes but females have to go to the left once they reach the front and show ID to a female bouncer and males to the right and male bouncer. No issue so far.

This club charges an entry free "to help manage the crowds and improve the experience plus to absorb the costs of people not drinking and just coming and dancing after getting drunk at home" . I'm asked to pay £2.50 entry free and enter, my partner comes in and is grumbling that on a cheap night they've charged him a fiver for just entry.

Now surely that isn't right and is sex discrimination? They're charging more for men to enter then females even though we both use the same service. Am i being petty to complain and idk report them to somewhere or should i just get over it?

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 21:23

I think I'll message the establishment first, rather then get a daily mail sad face story Grin.

But if they ignore me then definitley the council and then some place higher

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sunshineandshowers21 · 15/01/2019 21:26

this has happened to me a couple of times where my boyfriend has been charged to get into a club but then i’ve been let in for free. there’s one club that most weekends has a bouncer walking down the line and picking out the ‘best looking’ girls to be let in for free and given free bottles of (very cheap) champagne in the vip area.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 15/01/2019 21:27

I've just realised that it's your OH who paid more but you are the one who is going to follow up.

Is there a reason he's not doing it?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 15/01/2019 21:28

Sunshine urgh yes these 'perks' are fucking iffy really.

Purpleartichoke · 15/01/2019 21:33

From the club’s perspective, women entering the club represent a commodity as much as they are customers. Without the women being present, many men would not enter the club.

That doesn’t change the fact that charging different amounts is disciminatory. I do however understand why the club wants to charge different amounts.

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 21:38

He says he cba and it just happens, he was more pissed that on a super cheap sunday he had to pay a fiver to get in Grin. He thought you got in free on sundays so that's the only reason i knew we had differently.

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Vicky1990 · 15/01/2019 21:40

Yes it is quite clearly sex discrimination and you are right to mention it.
It may be worthwhile contacting the councils license authorities and asking them.
Perhaps you may find an answer on Google, let us know if you find out if it's legal or not.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 15/01/2019 21:43

But why is the sexism ok then?

Women get cheaper entry, men get to meet attractive women. It shouldn't be sexism because both sex's are happy with the arrangement.

Night clubs are where people go to meet the opposite sex. If you put off women from going then men wont go either. Are people only allowed to hook up on line now?

This is where 'equality' is bad for us.

GerryblewuptheER · 15/01/2019 21:45

They can't be happy with it if they aren't told.

And if you make your club safe and respectful to women They will come. Run offers on booze/theme nights to bring in extra if need be

People can hook up anywhere they want. But I don't wanna find out they paid nore than me to bloody do it.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 15/01/2019 21:58

I'm going against the grain here...yes I think it's sexist and wrong.

I don't think as women we can complain about discrimination against us (and I do, plenty!) and then when it's the other way around and benefits us and unfair to men, it's fair game. Although I see why this happens as we feel we've got to redress the balance, I think the only way we will get equality is if everything possible is equal, all the time. I don't think the reasons why they do it matter, it just doesn't feel right to charge differently based on your sex. So I'd complain

I don't think it's comparable to men paying more for insurance, I actually think this was fair as you pay for insurance based on your risk factors such as age and previous history and sex is a proven risk factor. Interestingly though since the regulations were brought in, women actually pay even less than men (the premium gap had increased) as insurers have got a lot more data and can analyse many more different risk factors now such as profession and type of car and hours driven etc. And it just so happens that a lot of these factors are different for each sex. An unintended but i think fair conséquence of a stupid regulation

Anyway sorry I digress

NothingOnTellyAgain · 15/01/2019 21:59

It's not against the grain most posters have said its sexist

NothingOnTellyAgain · 15/01/2019 22:01

Life insurance costs were improved for men as well with gender neutral pricing

Women did well in annuities out of it but oh look the government basically pulled the plug on them

Violetroselily · 15/01/2019 22:02

It's because they don't want it to be a sausage fest

NothingOnTellyAgain · 15/01/2019 22:04

The description of women in club as commodity is depressing but true.

MargueritaPink · 15/01/2019 22:07

GerryblewuptheER
I don't think it benefits us.
Just means the men potentially feel more entitled to "get some action" or "admire the view" because they paid extra

Would make me feel kinda dirty tbh

It would make me less likely to go for that reason.

Buddytheelf85 · 15/01/2019 22:17

It’s extremely sexist, but not for the reason you think.

Moneypenny007 · 15/01/2019 22:23

It's €15/20 to get into a club here...

(Totally missing the point)

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 22:52

This is a decent club in a modest town and was on a sunday so was fairly cheap for that reason.

It usually is more expensive i hear to get in, like 10 to 20 quid though.

I have emailed the establishment, highlighting i think this is discrimanation based on sex and that i was wondering what their opinion is on this and whether they think it goes against the law.
I higlighted that this difference in price wasn't highlighted to customers so people were being decieved as well.

I stated that i will be looking into it further and would like their reply but highlighted that I'm not coming after them by going to anyone official and just want them to change their practise of charging difference prices to people based on their sex.

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GunpowderGelatine · 15/01/2019 22:57

I have nothing to add to the sexism discussion but £2.50 entry - last time I went clubbing I paid £12 Shock in the North as well! where do you live OP?!

GunpowderGelatine · 15/01/2019 22:59

Also tell your DH to identify as a woman next time, even though his drivers licence says his name is Dave, his gender says his name is Paris and if they don't let him in he'll sue - bet you they hustle you both in for nowt

Kethy · 15/01/2019 23:03

If you complained, I'd expect you to get a refund just to avoid any fuss and to make the complaint go away

animallikeyou · 15/01/2019 23:04

Hun, get over it. First world problem.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 15/01/2019 23:10

I imagine if the club could get enough people in charging more money on the door they would. And with charging less they probably can't make a profit. The city I live in night clubs are closing.

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 23:26

They normally charge a lot more but it was a super cheap sunday thing to get more people into town and into the club on a generally quiet night.

So if a women was made to pay more for something would it be a first world problem? Or would you be saying what a disgrace its?

I know lets charge women more to go to the cinema... its a first world problem, deal with it.

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Tiscold · 15/01/2019 23:28

If they try give me a refund of my 2.50 or my husbands fiver, i will tell them where to shove their cash.

I want them to chnage the policy and if they don't I'll just complain to the local council and my mp about it. And if they don't listen i will take it further.

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