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If there was another Brexit referendum would you vote the same way?

523 replies

marmeladerose · 14/01/2019 20:26

By the way I am not for another Brexit referendum but I am seeing a lot about it on the news/social media and it got be wondering what everyone would vote if it did happen and what did you vote before? I voted remain and would vote remain again.

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Geminijes · 15/01/2019 15:48

Do you know that the EU are £12.5 Trillion in debt!

BrazenHusky74 · 15/01/2019 15:48

Eatmycheese it is your right to keep repeating yourself. Never did I say that I had confidence in this government. I have the right to show my dissatisfaction by spoiling my paper, far more reasonable than calling for the execution of the PM.

The referendum gave people the choice, if the result is ignored what is the point of a vote. I assume you voted Remain. You lost the vote and have your knickers in a twist, imagine how the people who won the vote would feel if Leave doesn't go ahead.

The fact that the referendum happened and people were surprised by the result shows how far removed from reality our politicians are.

BarbarianMum · 15/01/2019 15:49

Not necessarily. I'm a remainer but might be tempted to vote for a clearly outlined soft Brexit, if only to avoid us careering into a hard, unplanned Brexit.

Weetabixandshreddies · 15/01/2019 15:50

Doesn't matter what the literature said.

Well, it kind of does. Both sides of this campaign misled the voters. Not once did I see anyone describing the scenario that we have now. If it was all so obvious why did no remain campaigners not spell it out? When did they start to realise what a stumbling block NI and the GFA was going to be?

Satsumaeater · 15/01/2019 15:51

Remainers did spell things out and were told it was all Project Fear.

I don't want another referendum but would vote to remain again.

Failing that, to stay in the EEA.

millyonth · 15/01/2019 15:53

Boris. No, the referendum was only ever advisory, if people didn't know that its their fault.
Absolute nonsense. Nobody ever mentioned it being advisory until Gina Miller's legal intervention. As the leaflet above makes perfectly clear the government clearly stated that it would implement the result and that it was a once in a generation decision.

If Parliament goes back on this it will badly damage the trust people have in their MPs.

MPs need to be very careful. 70% of Conservative constituencies and 60% of Labour constituencies voted to Leave in the 2016 referendum.

BorisBogtrotter · 15/01/2019 15:58

"As the leaflet above makes perfectly clear the government clearly stated that it would implement the result and that it was a once in a generation decision."

That government is no longer in power, and it wasn't a legal precedent.

It doesn't matter what the leaflet said.

I knew it was advisory, as all referendums are in the UK.

Edgeworth · 15/01/2019 15:58

Not once did I see anyone describing the scenario that we have now. If it was all so obvious why did no remain campaigners not spell it out? When did they start to realise what a stumbling block NI and the GFA was going to be?

Voters were warned about the impact on the Irish border before the referendum.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/09/tony-blair-and-john-major-brexit-would-close-irish-border

Although it wasn't until TM called her GE, lost her majority and had to get herself propped up by the DUP that it became quite so pivotal.

BorisBogtrotter · 15/01/2019 15:58

"Both sides of this campaign misled the voters."

The leaflet wasn't part of the campaign.

Namechangeragain01 · 15/01/2019 15:59

OK so hands up who knew when they were voting that it was only advisory??

I certainly didn't. I assumed that the statement about the decision being implemented was accurate.

WitheredfromtheLake · 15/01/2019 15:59

Remain, then and now.

Monestasi · 15/01/2019 15:59

Nor will you - because you don’t think they’re good reasons. To other folks, they’re perfectly valid reasons. It would be a boring world if we all thought the same

My five year old thinks Haribos is a good meal option. Her reasoning is that she likes them. Doesn't make it a good meal option just because she likes them and thinks they are.

I have yet to hear any substance from a leaver, and I have been willing to have both ears chewed off to hear some positivity from this colossal fuck up that is Brexit.

I cannot vote as Ive been living in the EU too long. I am livid still over being refused a vote because I had passed the deadline (by two bloody months)

I can't see anything good about leaving. I am really fucking sad about it too.

And do stop with the EU is bullying us bullshit. The UK has always thought it can throw it's weight around without consequence. The view from the continent is one of utter bewilderment.

millyonth · 15/01/2019 16:01

So during the 2016 campaign, did you or any others post on here to let other MNers know that the referendum was only advisory? I'd be interested to see the posts.

BorisBogtrotter · 15/01/2019 16:01

Actually I think people would be very happy if parliament took control of the issues here.

I don't think MPS need to be careful at all.

Weetabixandshreddies · 15/01/2019 16:01

Remainers did spell things out and were told it was all Project Fear.

I'm not talking about project fear I'm talking about this mess - a no deal scenario, the deal that May has "negotiated", the back stop. Where was any of that warned about?

All I saw was remainers saying the UK would be worse off, would lose trade deals, suffer staff shortages in the NHS etc. Where were the specific warnings about this situation?

ChasedByBees · 15/01/2019 16:21

Millyonth- it was said repeatedly and the reply was that it would have been breaking the trust of the British public not to go ahead.

Weetabix - there was so much that could have gone wrong and the NI situation was going to be extremely difficult to resolve due to all the things in conflict.

I was posting about this the day after the vote so it was known and warned about.

It was also obvious that as no one voted for a specific thing (the vote was to move away from something) there was no situation which would keep everyone happy.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/01/2019 16:25

Seriously?

This has turned into a complete clusterfuckand its because people who thought they might vote remain didnt explain everything they thought might go wrong

Alrighty

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/01/2019 16:26

Politicians lie all the time

Cameron promised that child benefit wouldnt be touched

Lying fucker

Edgeworth · 15/01/2019 16:29

Weetabix - we were repeatedly warned, before the referendum, that Brexit could cause a hard, Irish border and jeapordize the peace that's been achieved. The border was always going to be problem, which was only heightened after the DUP were called in to prop up TM.

BorisBogtrotter · 15/01/2019 16:31

Cameron also said there would be no top down reorganization of the NHS

Weetabixandshreddies · 15/01/2019 16:31

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer

Lack of information isn't the fault of the remain voters - it's the fault of the politicians who campaigned.

There was a distinct lack of information around this referendum. Ironically, far more has been reported and debated in the past months, 2 and a half years after the event.

What is becoming more and more obvious is that no one really knew what it was going to look like until now. And that is shameful. That the government entered into this without a clue as to how it would end up.

BlueEyedBengal · 15/01/2019 16:32

I voted leave as did my town and I would vote leave now. If this vote is not followed through then I think that democratic votes have been ignored then I will never vote again in any election for the rest of my life.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 15/01/2019 16:33

Equally no one knows what the EU will look like in 10 years/20 years down the line...how it stands today is not how it was in the 70s/80s/90s......had it been guaranteed to stay as it is today then we would have majority voted to remain.

Weetabixandshreddies · 15/01/2019 16:34

Edgeworth

But if that is true, then how has it become the 11th hour stumbling block?

It was not presented, certainly not widely, as the matter which would decide the entire issue and potentially keep us shackled to the EU indefinitely.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/01/2019 16:34

Lack of information isn't the fault of the remain voters - it's the fault of the politicians who campaigned

I completely agree weetabix

Assuming of course that you mean remain and leave politicians