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To feel sad for the guy in the paternity fraud case

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moanymoaner · 10/01/2019 12:19

Was watching it on GMB this morning and he was teary , I feel sad for him . I can't imagine finding out when the kids were older that they weren't yours! I get that the boys are standing with their mum but surely they must be feeling cross with her lies :( all such a mess for them :(

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Sonneedshelp · 11/01/2019 17:12

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Doyoumind · 11/01/2019 17:14

You're going too far Sonneedshelp.

Sonneedshelp · 11/01/2019 17:19

@Doyoumind and @Smotheroffive calling the man a curb isn't?

Sonneedshelp · 11/01/2019 17:19

@Doyoumind and @Smotheroffive calling the man a curb isn't?

thedancingbear · 11/01/2019 17:20

Son, you've made a bit of a fool of yourself here.

Doyoumind · 11/01/2019 17:24
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BejamNostalgia · 11/01/2019 17:38

Doubt it. She's remained silent.

No reason to think that mightn’t have been the case if they’d approached her before his story ran. She does like money after all.

I’ll be honest, it’s not so much supporting him, it’s more the fact that the sort of posters that are supporting her on here really get up my nose. As soon as I read the story, the first thing I thought was ‘there are going to be a load of posters on Mumsnet desperately trying to spin this into being his fault’.

I mean, I’ve had a look through the posting histories of some of the people supporting him and come across threads about husbands who have lied or cheated but not quite as extreme as this - they more or less suggest nailing those men’s balls to the wall and then setting them on fire. That’s an exaggeration, but you know what I mean.

I’m driven more by being irritated by that hypocrisy than I am by supporting him TBF.

BejamNostalgia · 11/01/2019 17:39

What’s a curb?

PollyFlinderz · 11/01/2019 17:42

Son, you made a valid point in your post on page 3 but you're now being a complete and utter prat.

PollyFlinderz · 11/01/2019 17:43

What’s a curb?

is how we pronounce kerb is Scotland

Sonneedshelp · 11/01/2019 17:43

@BejamNostalgia should've said cunt, but I think you knew that didn't you?

MissLanesAmericanCousin · 11/01/2019 17:46

I have read the whole thread and posted, and I am still surprised as to why the ex wife's actions are still being minimized and why some people think that because he raised them for 23 years it means that he should just forget that he has been betrayed so abhorrently, that he should just say yeah, no big deal. Life happens!

Don't these people understand that she stole his choices? 23 years of life. 23 years of different choices that he could have made, yet were stolen from this thief of a woman!

I don't care if he is an asshole and he is writing a book. That is not the point The point is, what she did was morally and ethically wrong and I think she should serve time for it. He deserves the choice on whether he wants to adopt or have a family. That choice was ripped away from him. And, it doesn't matter, if he wanted a family before, because he thought he was having a biological family, and it is in his right as it is in any persons right to pass on their legacy if they choose too.

BejamNostalgia · 11/01/2019 17:48

I mean, that twat Fleet St Fox is doing it too. Saying he shouldn’t even have told anybody and just kept it to himself and immoliate himself with the knowledge no matter how badly she behaved. Remember at this point he knew the Mum had carried out a huge deception, but he was the ones his kids were accusing of lying, faking an illness, faking DNA tests, trying to get money under false pretences. When your kids are taking that attitude towards you and you know that the other parent has carried out a huge, huge massive deception, could you keep your gob shut? I couldn’t.

easyandy101 · 11/01/2019 17:50

@misslanesamericancousin

Consent is a variable concept on mn, it appears

BejamNostalgia · 11/01/2019 17:50

No I didn’t know. Young people say all sorts of stuff I haven’t a clue about. If you know what the meaning of Bae is, I haven’t worked that one out yet either.

Doyoumind · 11/01/2019 17:53

Who has minimised her behaviour though? Has anyone said what she did was ok?

easyandy101 · 11/01/2019 17:53

I think it's like babe without the 2nd b

Weetabixandshreddies · 11/01/2019 17:55

Doesn't bae mean "before anyone else"? Like your favourite person?

MartaHallard · 11/01/2019 17:56

Who on earth would want to speak out to the world abut this? and not give a shit about their dc
Someone who doesn't care about their DC, but only about themselves and revenge nasty fucker

it’s indefensible to drag his kids into the media.

What is the difference between this man and Gordon Brown, who felt obliged to speak about his son's medical condition when the Sun got hold of it and was going to publish regardless?

easyandy101 · 11/01/2019 17:58

Who has minimised her behaviour though? Has anyone said what she did was ok?

Quite a few along the way have mentioned his behaviour, or imagined behaviours, as being justification for her role, so yeah, minimizing

Weetabixandshreddies · 11/01/2019 18:00

Who has minimised her behaviour though? Has anyone said what she did was ok?

I'm not sure anyone has posted supporting what she did but the tone seems to be down playing what she did whilst saying that the biggest betrayal is that the man has made it public or about money.

Some posters have used the fact that some men cheat almost as an excuse fir her to do it.

I can't imagine how he feels. Literally 20+ years of his life are a lie. Every birthday, Christmas, father's day - a lie. How does he get justice for that?

Doyoumind · 11/01/2019 18:02

I was misquoted as 'minimising' when my point was that we actually know very little about their relationship or what really happened and that we shouldn't trust his version of events when we are only hearing one side of the story. I would have said the same if the exw was giving her story. I don't think people genuinely support what she did.

Doyoumind · 11/01/2019 18:05

It's incredibly painful for him, I'm sure, but those birthdays etc were real and the emotions around them were real. Doesn't that count for anything?

Weetabixandshreddies · 11/01/2019 18:06

Doyoumind

Does it really matter what her side of the story is? What could possibly justify what she did? She has 3 children by another man that she deceived her husband into raising as his own.

What possible justification can there be for that?

Weetabixandshreddies · 11/01/2019 18:07

It's incredibly painful for him, I'm sure, but those birthdays etc were real and the emotions around them were real. Doesn't that count for anything?

In my view, no they don't count for anything. The entire foundation on which they were built was a lie.

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