Death Penalty for Bellfield

[Charlotte48]

Having watched Manhunt about the investigation into the evil paedophile; child killer; woman killer; woman abuser and beater, Levi Bellfield, I was just wondering if, after Brexit, we should restore the death penalty. Surely Bellfield should be executed.

No justice system is perfect and I would never wish to kill an innocent person

Nor me - and I wouldn't want to kill a guilty one either.

I wonder why people can't be civil to one another? Some people support Brexit, some people support Remain, some people support the death penalty, some people don't - it's all a matter of opinion - there's no need for personal insults to other posters.

@Greensleeves We seem to have a cultural love for almost everything sent to us by the USA - which doesn't help.

I wonder why people can't be civil to one another?

Civil?! You want to bring back the death penalty ffs! How civil is that?

Anyway, how come you don’t know the difference between the EU and the ECHR?

One of the very best things about MN is that nobody makes you perform female conditioning and "be polite" to haunted beef. If you bring your bigoted, bloodthirsty unreconstructed views here, you get what you deserve.

Mm but can you understand that Brexit has already cost many people their security and their jobs and who knows what will happen next.
So when brexiteers reveal themselves to have a very poor grasp of facts, it’s painful.

@badlydrawnperson exactly this

I wonder why people can't be civil to one another? Some people support Brexit, some people support Remain, some people support the death penalty, some people don't - it's all a matter of opinion - there's no need for personal insults to other posters.

Because not all opinions are equal. Would you say "some people are Nazis, some aren't. It's just an opinion. Let's all be nice to each other".

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm perfectly entitled to think you're quite dim, and to say so.

What a risible OP.

After Brexit why don't we ban homosexuality and gay marriage?

After Brexit let's bring back caning in schools.

Let's abolish equality laws and legislation too, all those bloody women and BAME demanding equal rights and all that bollocks. Brexit rah rah rah.

I wonder why people can't be civil to one another? Some people support Brexit, some people support Remain, some people support the death penalty, some people don't - it's all a matter of opinion - there's no need for personal insults to other posters.

Because when your “opinion” gives away how stupid you are and how voting based on that stupidity is going to fuck over the country, I don’t feel inclined to be “civil”.

Have you explained why you think the EU and the death penalty have anything to do with each other? I’m all ears.

No we should never bring back state sanctioned murder

But having worked with some truly cruel nasty people I am not totally against them being punished by being kept in solitary confinement or the use of chemical castration

Holy crap.

I voted leave.

I am against the death penalty.

I know the difference between the EU and ECHR.

Why does every thread have to turn into 'we hate the leavers they are all cunts"?

OP I really feel it's worth pointing out that you come across as very dim. Not knowing the difference between 'except' and 'accept' is basic year 6 stuff. Plus trying to claim that being an accountant is a gleaming talisman of intellect indicates your low expectations.

However, I do believe (and I may be wrong!) that the EU or Court of Human Rights said it was "unlawful" under Human Rights law for prisoners to be kept in prison without any chance of parole

You are wrong

Most supporters of the death penalty I've encountered DO also support the reintroduction of corporal punishment, and they think feminism has "gone too far". There are a lot of very thick, pernicious, hard-of-thinking people out there.

...and until we start prioritising critical thinking, social awareness and metacognition in education, it isn't going to get any better. Sadly the tide is flowing in the opposite direction at the moment, as we are governed by a bunch of overprivileged right-wingers who are obsessed with data and think you can make a pig fatter by weighing it every five minutes.

Yep, agree with that.

until we start prioritising critical thinking, social awareness and metacognition in education, it isn't going to get any better

This

@BadlyDrawnPerson, yes, I should have put a or or something, really. I am not in favour of the death penalty.

I am at a loss as to what we can do about keeping people in prison actually for life, because I don't think that's a particularly good solution to the problem of people who are simply not fit to be let loose in society either, but the death penalty is really really not acceptable.

Apparently there are 75 whole life prisoners in the UK, but that doesn't include people like Huntley whose sentence is 40 years minimum.

I wonder whether those calling for the death penalty would differentiate between the people who have whole life sentences and those who have 40 years+ minimum sentences. How? I suspect if we did bring back death penalty for whole lifers the Judges would simply hand out lesser sentences. Would that be a good thing?

I'm amazed anyone can be "civil" to anyone who thinks the death penalty is acceptable.

I wonder why people can't be civil to one another?

Says the person who started a thread about restoring the death penalty. Don't you see how contradictory those two statements are. Lets all be civil, but hay lets kill people. Ok OP, i would havd thought killing people was the very oppisite of being civil to each other.

As for the brexit debate, you too started that by some how suggesting that the absence of the death penatly was down to us being in the EU. and we could restore it after brexit. Which shows that you dont really understand what you voted for. Which is sad and worrying. Yes people have generalised. And others have contradicted those generalisations.

As for the everyones entitled to their oppinion, yes, but it should be based on facts, not some unconected link.

Look, I’ve said already I should not have made the link between Brexit and the death penalty but surely everyone would agree that Bellfield is a monster who should (at the very least) die in prison. I am sorry if I appear dim, I am not very good on politics. I did not say I was an accountant I said my husband was - and in fact he is a very successful one with his own business. As this has got into a Brexit debate, I will put some of his points here. He says that if you voted remain then you voted for the following:
The Euro, a common European Army, a common income tax policy, a United States of Europe – this apparently is all laid out in the Maastricht Treaty (?) Total European integration. He says that a “one size fits all” economic policy won’t work as European countries are too diverse and the economic system (whether or not Britain is in it) will eventually collapse. He says that is impossible to have a single currency without having “an integrated taxation system”. He says that David Cameron went to Europe to try to get the Brussels beaurocats to agree a two speed Europe and they would not do this – as they are Hell bent on the federalist agenda as laid out in the Maastricht Treaty.
He says that if Greece still had the Drachma rather than the Euro it would have been devalued and tourists would be flocking to Greece as it would be so cheap and Greece’s economy would now be booming – as it is the Euro can’t be devalued so Greece is in a state of economic stagnation – the same with Italy. These are the reasons why we voted to leave the EU, sorry once again for linking this with the death penalty.