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AIBU to leave my ok DH

149 replies

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

I'm soon to be 40 and have been married 10 years. No DC, 1 cat. My DH and I haven't had sex in 5. He wants to, I don't. The reason I don't want to is because I resent him for hundreds of little things that have happened in our relationship. Stupid, petty things, like me asking him to do something (e.g.put laundry away) and him saying he will, later, then never doing it. He's always preferred an easy life, always been the more laid back one, whilst I've always been the one who keeps things running, who ensures the cat is flead, the hotel is booked in time before it gets super expensive, MOT is booked in etc. He leaves things until last minute and then does a bad job, not because he can't do things properly but because he's essentially a bit lazy. We have had the same argument 1000s of times:

Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better.

It's gotten to the point that I don't trust him at all anymore and I've said some truly hurtful things to him (name calling), because I've lost respect. He gets angry because I don't trust him. He also gaslights me. Minor gaslighting tbh but he'll claim I never asked him to do something, or that he told me he would do it - insert day - and that I must have misheard him etc. All lies to cover his back. He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me. But by that point we've had a massive argument and we're both upset. We argue daily.

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage. And he has actually improved a lot since we first met. We do housework 50-50 now (though I am still the manager and he always asks me what needs doing rather than do things off his own bat). He very rarely takes initiative. I feel like I don't respect him anymore, that I am the only adult in this relationship. I keep thinking if I only could have sex with him May be we could work things out. But, much as I like him and he is a great friend (we have the same sense of humour and want the same things out of life) the thought of sleeping with imo a manchild fills me with disgust.

I have brought up divorce a number of times but he won't hear of it. He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away. But aren't we too young to stay in a sexless marriage? He's not happy because he has a wife with an incredibly sharp tongue and I'm not happy because I feel there is no going back.

I am terrified of leaving and realising I've made a terrible mistake. I am terrified of going through life (and dying!) on my own (practically no family left and friends are scattered across UK). What's to say the same won't happen again if I do find someone else (in my 40s which I'm sure is hard enough). And maybe it's me, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, too controlling, and if only I could let go a bit, things would be ok, eventually?

Do I stay or do I go?

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

Sorry, this ended up being very long!

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LannieDuck · 06/01/2019 09:15

He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away.

What's his plan for fixing it?

Caterinaballerina · 06/01/2019 09:18

Could you suggest/insist on some sort of marriage counselling? Then you will both know you have expressed your feelings and had a really good try at trying to make it work?

Singlenotsingle · 06/01/2019 09:20

You aren't happy though, are you? Do you want to go on like this for the next 30-40 years? 40 is relatively young and there's still

icelollycraving · 06/01/2019 09:20

Well if you had a plan for helping to fix it or is he going to procrastinate on that too?
A sexless marriage is ok if that suits both of you. It doesn’t sound like either of you are terribly happy.

Branleuse · 06/01/2019 09:20

sounds like youve been clear about what you need from him and hes repeatedly not lived up to the mark.
Considering youve been trying for years and you dont have any kids to think about, I definitely wouldnt be flogging this dead horse any longer than you need to

bengalcat · 06/01/2019 09:21

I’m surprised either of you stay tbh . But for some the status quo is better than change . How about seeing a counsellor to see what if anything could be done to improve life for both of you .

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:22

No plan as such tbh! He's in denial I think. He keeps saying he's changed but then the same thing happens again (him saying he'll do something and then either not doing it or stopping at the first hurdle). I suggest he writes whatever it is I've asked in his diary but then he gets offended ('I won't forget!', only he often does... but is then ready with some sort of excuse. So many excuses). Occasionally he does keep a promise but not often enough really.

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Boysandbuses · 06/01/2019 09:22

Most marriages (not talking DV) need both people to meet in the middle.

My Dp, for example, is exceptionally tidy. He has had to understand that sometimes the house won't be perfect, all the pots won't be done etc. I have also had to be tidier in general. We compromised.

But honestly, no sex for 5 years? Sounds like this has gone too far. But does sound like you may be a perfectionist and he is on the opposite end of the scale. You arent compatible.

You can choose to leave for any reason. It's easier with his agreement. But you don't need it.

Singlenotsingle · 06/01/2019 09:22

Whoops! ...time to meet someone else who suits you better. It's no good him saying he won't hear of divorce. If one person doesn't want to be married any more, that's the end of it. You make it happen.

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:22

Sorry, that was in response to lannieduck

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MIdgebabe · 06/01/2019 09:23

And you stay because....?

Aridane · 06/01/2019 09:23

Counselling first?

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:25

Thanks all. I think I do need some sort of permission to leave. Change is hard. Especially as I don't know whether it will be better in the long run. Certainly not in the short run.

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:26

I guess maybe we could give counselling a shot. Not sure whether it would make much difference.

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Amorea · 06/01/2019 09:26

i've lost respect

This is a very bad sign.

My DH is very similar and we've been together 11 years. He never takes initiative and I manage everything. I'm good at it. He's crap and will forget vital things.

I used to feel so resentful, but I got past it. DH is kind, generous, loyal and adores me. He's just not got the same level as self-motivation as me. Instead of seeing it as a weakness, I realised it was totally unfair to judge him. It's his character, and I accept him. Now I love that he's more laid back than me, and I try and chill out a bit more if X isn't done, or Y still needs doing.

Life is an endless to-do list!

Do you criticise him a lot? I used to - nothing was quick enough or done right - but I changed as I felt respect slipping. Whatever he did, I praised him. I stopped nagging. And it worked - he felt more respected, I felt more respectful and he's slightly better at completing things (like sorting an MOT for his car) before last minute. He may just not be as naturally good at being organised as you are.

Could you try couples counselling to open up communucation? It's a worry you haven't been intimate for so long, you definitely need that contact - emotionally and physically.

Reccy2018 · 06/01/2019 09:28

Clearly he needs to step up, no doubt about that, but it is interesting you say if you were more relaxed it may work. Have you tried picking your battles? There will always be one person that is naturally more tidy/has more get up and go/has more initiative then the other. Have you tried really assessing whether you care if the bins go out, or the hotel is a bit more expensive, or whatever. I mean, presumably it's his clothes that don't get put away when he doesn't do it. I do get that you see it as a lack of respect, but perhaps before you consider divorce - extremely final - you act or pretend to yourself for a month or two that the minor stuff doesn't bother you. Act like a carefree person, and see if it helps you realise what is non negotiable for you and what you can live with. If booking a more expensive hotel is really important (and it might be, it might be the difference between you going and not going for example) then you'll have a better understanding or what you can live with and what you can't. You might find that you become the more relaxed person and see him in a different light.

If not, you're no worse off. Plus you'll be safe in the knowledge you tried meeting him halfway and he couldn't meet you there.

Thewifipasswordis · 06/01/2019 09:28

Leave OP. You know that's the right thing to do. I promise the feelings wont ever come back. You'd rather be miserable on your own than miserable with a manchild I'm sure?? He wants to 'fix' things because he wants you to carry on being his mother 🙄

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:29

Hi Amorea it's good to hear you managed to save your marriage. I do criticise him. All the time these days :(. I fear it's gone too far but maybe counselling could be a last ditch attempt. At least, if nothing else, we can say we've tried.

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AuntieGeek · 06/01/2019 09:30

Surprised nobody has mentioned emotional labour. You needing to tell him what to do is a bad sign.

Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:30

I'm going for a walk now to try to clear my head but will come back later. Thanks all for your posts, they're helping.

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mummmy2017 · 06/01/2019 09:32

Sorry but you k ow this is over.
You need to sort out money and split, it is far kinder on both of you.

SoyDora · 06/01/2019 09:35

Do either of you get anything out of this marriage?

Oblomov18 · 06/01/2019 09:37

Why did you marry him?

Dh is very different to me: driven, gets things done. I only do bare minimum, what needs doing. But we compromise.

Surely you knew what he was like in between meeting him and marrying him.

Where's the acceptance? So he's not this or that. That's his personality. We can all compromise a bit, change a bit. But you're actually asking him to be a totally different person.

I don't think I'd like it. I'd probably tell you to get lost, if you couldn't accept me for what I am.

arranbubonicplague · 06/01/2019 09:39

Counselling if you want to try it. I've no idea how this works when somebody is defaulting to gaslighting and lying and the other has lost respect.

Separation if you both want an experience of what life is like without each other.